Sending U.K. refugees to Rawanda

Boz

It maybe illegal or immoral but,I am afraid, a vote winner when the May Elections are looming. The Brexiteers will like it and they are Johnson'a main political lifeline.

Wow! So you're claiming that the country of full of people who don't care about the law or morals? Especially Brexiters! How sad!

It maybe illegal or immoral but,I am afraid, a vote winner when the May Elections are looming. The Brexiteers will like it and they are Johnson'a main political lifeline.

Allsorts

Have you seen over the last 20 years, the people living in squalour in high rise flats, no lifts, water running through the ceilings, private rents are rat and pest infested and how many of the homeless on our streets. Young people unable to get a mortgage, not earning enough and rental costs too high. It is expected we will have 1000 people seeking refuge here every day soon, coming in via unscrupulous provoke smugglers, that's apart from the people from Ukraine. Please if anyone can, tell me where they will go, who will fund this? We can't afford any more rise in income tax etc. Energy prices through the roof, the country is struggling. No one wants to turn away anyone in need but it is impossible to house and feed them. People born and bred here can't manage, they resort to food banks though working. If anyone feels very strongly then house a family, although it may be cramped it's better than turning them away and you will genuinely be able to say, I feel bad about what's happening and this is my contribution. Would love to know how anyone can sort this out please.

Don't vote for the Tories at the next GE

Boz

Denmark is moving illegals to Rwanda, although accepting Ukranians on humanitarian grounds. It's the IN place.

So does that make it right?. Johnson himself has questioned the legality of what he’s doing. Shouldn’t the PM, the Home Secretary and the Attorney General know if what they’re doing is legal? And, yet again, an announcement made when parliament isn’t sitting. It’s like a stuck record….

OK. The people they do not wish to accept are being sent to Rwanda.

Boz

Denmark is moving illegals to Rwanda, although accepting Ukranians on humanitarian grounds. It's the IN place.

Who or what are "illegals"? What have they done which is illegal?

Denmark is moving illegals to Rwanda, although accepting Ukranians on humanitarian grounds. It's the IN place.

than then

Do you have proof they throw their passports away Zorro? Or did you just read about it?

Don't you care about international law?

The is an authoritarian ruler and does not tolerate political agitation

Bit like Russia than?

Kagame, President of Rwanda isn’t a despot, he is an authoritarian ruler and does not tolerate political agitation, in the last 20 yrs it has become one of the fastest growing economies in Africa, it’s one of the safest places to travel. It’s one of the few countries where women have a majority in parliament.

No they don’t have the freedoms we have but they are a model that many countries could well follow.

The hundreds of people who arrive from France at Dover throw their passports and any form of ID away so officials here can't tell who they are or where they come from. I don't understand why people on this thread can't see that it is the people who currently live in UK who are inconvenienced by all this happening unabated. It is the taxpayer who has to foot the massive bills for all of them put up in hotels in UK, and we are having to also put up with housing being built all over the countryside to house them, while your young children and grandchildren can't get affordable houses for themselves. Then the gov puts the men in schools where, because they can't tell their age, they cause trouble with the kids who we do know the ages of. None of this is right.

LauraNorderr

We didn’t speak Fijian. My father had skills that may well be shared by the young men you speak of. We will not know what they can do or learn to do until we ‘process’ them.

Exactly.

Recently on the local TV news there was a report from the Royal London Hospital, Whitechapel about a group of refugees/asylum seekers, who as we know are not usually allowed to work until they have been processed and that can take years, literally. Crazy.

This group was part of a special scheme that fast-tracked and allowed them to work as Health Care Assistants whilst they did further study/training to upgrade their overseas qualifications. They were nurses, a doctor and something else from various 'hot-spots'. What other much-needed skills are we missing out on.

Where there's a will there's a way.

growstuff ✔️

The other thing that strikes me is that people state with absolute certainty that you can do this, or you can’t do that, and that this or that is the law. Based on no idea whatsoever of what they are talking about.
Is this because the papers have told them so? Or Johnson makes them think that? Who knows.

Thank you volver. I was being too lazy to look up a link to the law.

They can't stay without a visa, so they claim asylum, which does give a legal right to stay until the application is processed. They do have the right to enter the country.

Katie59

It is liiegal to enter the UK without permission - a visa

Try again.

fullfact.org/immigration/can-refugees-enter-uk-illegally/

Under international law, they have the legal right to claim asylum the moment they set foot on UK soil.

LauraNorderr I bet they called you an ex pat ...thats an immigrant who doesn't believe they are one who thinks they have riights way above everyone elses .
Scotland welcomes immigrants WE need them just the same as England does but we're happy to say it and accept them .I can genuinely say I have never heard anyone speak about refugees or immigrants the way they are spoken about on here and I am saddened and shocked at the attitude of people who are old enough to know better

Katie59

It is liiegal to enter the UK without permission - a visa

No, it isn't.

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s illegal to enter the country without the requisite permission, or attempt to do so.

No, it isn't. They have a legal right to claim asylum the moment they land. They're not "illegal" until/unless asylum is denied and they stay. As a former solicitor, I would have thought you would have known that.

Illegal

It is liiegal to enter the UK without permission - a visa

LauraNorderr

Kandinsky

That’s great LauraNorderr
But did you enter any of these countries in a dingy at 3 in the morning? Having paid a criminal £££££ for the pleasure?

I might have had to if I hadn’t been made welcome and if the legal route had been impossible to get through.

How is crossing the Channel not legal?

It’s illegal to enter the country without the requisite permission, or attempt to do so.