Gransnet forums

News & politics

Sending U.K. refugees to Rawanda

(759 Posts)
Esspee Thu 14-Apr-22 00:32:49

Is this Boris’s latest attempt to divert us all from dwelling on the fact that he repeatedly lied to parliament?

Coastpath Mon 18-Apr-22 20:25:36

Was this former chaplain Dr Gavin Ashenden? He's also been on Fox News, written for The Daily Mail and the Spectator and been interviewed by Rod Liddle and James Dellingpole.

Here's a quote from the Doctor who left his role as Chaplain to the Queen in 2019.

"The real Jesus warned that social justice would never happen in this world, that heterosexual marriage was to be between a man and a woman and that equality had nothing to do with the Kingdom of Heaven".

Did he really suggest that the Archbishop of Canterbury needs to realise that just ‘niceness’ doesn’t help anyone? Isn't that kind of contrary to the whole Christian message?

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Apr-22 20:06:32

The hotel I mentioned isn't by the sea.

volver Mon 18-Apr-22 20:01:23

Not this guy is it?

videopress.com/v/PQV7NobD?resizeToParent=true&cover=true&preloadContent=metadata&useAverageColor=true

The one saying that being rich is nothing to do with money and telling the Archbishop of Canterbury he doesn't understand the New Testament.confused

GillT57 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:58:06

Oh and he is a former chaplain to HM has now left the Church of England and joined the Catholic Church.

GillT57 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:54:14

Sounds delightful. No doubt the half a dozen viewers were getting all misty eyed about the veiled reference to good old Enoch.

volver Mon 18-Apr-22 19:41:07

GB News. Farage.

OK then.

Urmstongran Mon 18-Apr-22 19:32:52

I’ve just been watching a very interesting interview on GBNews. The interviewee is a chaplain to HM the Queen. He was saddened by the comments over the weekend by Justin Welby. He said (and I paraphrase) he’s woke and needs to realise that just ‘niceness’ doesn’t help anyone, not the migrants nor communities who are suffering from the effects of mass migration that was forecast in the 1970’s. He said unfortunately Welby does tend to jump on any leftist cause going (his words, not mine). Farage asked him ‘how much longer will we have to put up with him as head of the Anglican Church?”. “Sadly, forever” was the reply.

Made me wonder what does the Queen think of all this?

Iam64 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:07:21

‘Dinghy desperadoes’
Is there no depth you won’t sink to?

DaisyAnne Mon 18-Apr-22 18:49:34

Maudi

10:27 Urmstongran
Not so much refugees as it turns out. The majority on here hate some of us saying ‘economic migrants’ but quite honestly I didn’t realise until this morning that many of these dinghy desperadoes have had their applications for asylum turned down by France. So not fleeing persecution then. Who knew?

Fleeing France Urmstongran and who can blame them as we are such a soft touch here putting them up in 4 star hotels whats not to like. Might cost them £3000 for the trip but nice holiday by the sea awaits them here it seems.

Maundi, we may know how many France accepts, but how do you know that those coming over here have previously applied in France and then been refused? Could you quote your source?

No one would 'hate' what you say if you explain your source and back your statements with facts. I doubt they actually 'hate' your posts anyway.

I'm still waiting for Urmstongran to tell us how many refugees there are in the UK? Perhaps you know.

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:34:15

GillT57

Fair enough Callistemon, very disappointing. Presumably the owners of these hotels are being very amply rewarded.

Yes, I presume so and perhaps they felt they couldn't refuse as the headlines would have been detrimental!

I presume the original group got their deposits back.

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:32:32

Gill

The one I mentioned was a Mercure Hotel - not The Ritz but at £160 pppn not cheap and the photos of the rooms, the pool, the gym don't look at all depressing.
The group weren't told of the cancellation of their 75 rooms until they phoned to check final details the week before. They were lucky to find somewhere else at the last minute and to find a restaurant elsewhere to take them all.

So yes, it does happen.

ps I haven't read the Daily Mail

GillT57 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:25:01

Fair enough Callistemon, very disappointing. Presumably the owners of these hotels are being very amply rewarded.

JaneJudge Mon 18-Apr-22 18:18:59

www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/20021606.windsor-maidenhead-ready-take-ukrainian-refugees/

JaneJudge Mon 18-Apr-22 18:18:28

www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/berkshire-holiday-inn-gym-close-23502578

JaneJudge Mon 18-Apr-22 18:18:04

www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/maidenhead/175811/maidenhead-s-holiday-inn-to-accommodate-asylum-seekers-council-confirms.html

JaneJudge Mon 18-Apr-22 18:17:30

a quick google

www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/maidenhead/175764/maidenhead-s-holiday-inn-to-temporarily-close-next-month.html

Maudi Mon 18-Apr-22 18:14:12

But this weekend, the Holiday Inn in Maidenhead, Berkshire, was closed to tourists, outraging Britons who were hoping to stay there. It is now the home of migrants who have sailed across the Channel after paying traffickers thousands of pounds a head for the 21-mile journey.
Visitors rave about the spa and the swimming pool plus the fact that it’s a short hop to Windsor Castle, Ascot racecourse and the moorings of river Thames pleasure boats.(copied from Daily Mail today)

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:01:26

GillT57 although I disagree with almost everything else maudi posts (sorry, maudi) this did in fact happen to a group we were invited to join last year. The week before their long-planned, long-booked reunion was due to take place, their booking was cancelled by the hotel because the Government block-booked it for refugees. It sounds as if the Government requisitioned it.
We weren't going anyway but a couple of friends were.
I think they managed to find another hotel.

It wasn't a 2* star dive in the middle of nowhere btw as I can't imagine the group booking somewhere like that.

GillT57 Mon 18-Apr-22 17:46:17

JaneJudge

There is a hotel near me being used to house refugees or homeless. It was bought by the local authority and has secure rooms that are served by shared kitchen and lounge facilities and no alcohol is allowed on site. It appears to work well but I do feel sorry for the children having to play in the car park. Hopefully they don't stay there long.

It also doesn't sound like the kind of hotel where "disappointed Brits" would go for a weekend break. Unless they are the type who think that prisons are a holiday camp
There is one near me too, bloody middle of nowhere and next to a petrol station on a major road, must be a very depressing place to spend all day every day with little money

JaneJudge Mon 18-Apr-22 17:21:06

There is a hotel near me being used to house refugees or homeless. It was bought by the local authority and has secure rooms that are served by shared kitchen and lounge facilities and no alcohol is allowed on site. It appears to work well but I do feel sorry for the children having to play in the car park. Hopefully they don't stay there long.

Maudi Mon 18-Apr-22 15:00:28

Britons are turned away as mini-breaks are cancelled at hotels for migrants: SUE REID examines how Government spends £5million a day block-booking rooms as row rages over deal to send them to Rwanda

Maudi Mon 18-Apr-22 14:58:48

10:27 Urmstongran
Not so much refugees as it turns out. The majority on here hate some of us saying ‘economic migrants’ but quite honestly I didn’t realise until this morning that many of these dinghy desperadoes have had their applications for asylum turned down by France. So not fleeing persecution then. Who knew?

Fleeing France Urmstongran and who can blame them as we are such a soft touch here putting them up in 4 star hotels whats not to like. Might cost them £3000 for the trip but nice holiday by the sea awaits them here it seems.

GillT57 Mon 18-Apr-22 11:41:38

nanna8

I believe France accepts far more refugees p.a. than the UK. Not quite sure why the British government makes such a big deal about them.

I think most of us do know why the British government makes such a big deal about them. These stories distract a certain demographic from the fact that this Johnson administration is breaking the law, that we have a liar in charge, that life is going to get an awful lot worse for a lot of people in this country, but hey if they can convince people that everything is the fault of a few hundred desperate young men with brown skin...

DaisyAnne Mon 18-Apr-22 11:36:58

Urmstongran

Which illustrates my point Coastpath the UK is a soft touch. Come one, come all. Any number. We don’t send you back. In fact I think we’ve given up. Hence Rwanda as a deterrent.

It really doesn't.

I wonder if you can tell me how many refugees there are in the UK? What exactly are the numbers that worry you so much Urmstongran?

nanna8 Mon 18-Apr-22 11:32:39

I believe France accepts far more refugees p.a. than the UK. Not quite sure why the British government makes such a big deal about them.