Not just Boris then!

If we're trying to compare like with like we should be looking at how many times Boris went without a mask and how many parties Nicola has attended. How does that stack up Urmstongran?

Boris got a FPN. Nicola ... well no one who isn’t an SNP fan isn’t one bit surprised that Police Scotland didn’t issue one.

My stepfather when we chatted today just said “just incompetent. Running my country into the ground”.

I think he meant the whole shebang. The ferries. The missing £600k (still??) the A&E waiting times, the shocking tally of drug deaths ...

Urmstongran

Ah, Loving the way the Get Boris brigade are desperately trying to back peddle and explain how it is the worst thing in the world when a politician they hate breaks their own rules but it is quite all right when a politician they like does it.

Who has done that Urmstongran?

No Ug, it is about the gravity of the crime. Do you not understand the difference?

Ah, Loving the way the Get Boris brigade are desperately trying to back peddle and explain how it is the worst thing in the world when a politician they hate breaks their own rules but it is quite all right when a politician they like does it.

Well that's over then. The police spoke to her and they are not doing anything more.

Nicola is a strong intelligent honest woman who speaks her mind. I think that is what it is.
We in Scotland know what she stands for and you’re either for it or against it but you know what her vision is for our land. In time The ballet box is where it will be resolved.

If she had the same history as our prime minister can you imagine the abuse she’d get thrown at her.

I was on the fence regarding independence but watching what is happening in Westminster is stomach churning. This prime minister was voted in by the people …. not the Scottish people ….in spite of his history that says it all for me I’m afraid.

Maybe she could needle felt a fog? it would take a while and would at least be pretty

I truly think Urmstongran would try and knit fog if she thought it would make her view of politics seem realistic. It wouldn't and this doesn't.

Oh Mamie, he just went out into his garden and found lots of people there and oh dear he drank their wine and inhaled their cheese. How could the poor bugger possibly know it was against the rules? how could he possibly know it was a party?
and all the time his support worker was there with their newborn baby

Any masks visible in the partygate photos?

I simply cannot get into the mindset of people who think that forgetting to wear a mask for a few minutes is in the same league as condoning (and attending) multiple parties when the rules did not allow people to be with their loved ones at the time of bereavement and mourning.
It is beyond belief.

Thanks Casdon. Got it.

I hadn't realised Bank holiday barrel scraping was so popular in Spain

Aveline. I'm not talking about the SNP membership as a whole. I need to know why NS herself is disliked so much by some on here. Surely she can't do all the things you state without someone in her government opposing them? Why do they not try to get rid of her? Genuine request for an answer please.

SNP members have to toe the line? You mean the same line that the Westminster cabinet all follow like sheep when BJ forgets to tell the truth?

Thanks Aveline for that. I am also dissatisfied with our government up here in Scotland. I'm sure you could have gone on at great length as the words "shocking judgement" relates to so many issues here. One of the worrying ones for me is giving sixteen year olds the vote and also the right to stand for election and at the same time about to treat 25yr old offenders as juveniles when it comes to sentencing. We all understood when she lowered the voting age that it was a vote for independence inducement but where's the reasoning with the sentencing plans?

Just popping in to say that the Chief Mammy thing is a daft (disingenuous? ) interpretation of a joke she made in 2018. And kind of speaks to TopsyIrene06's question.

And those 175 spin doctors? This is what they do: The Scottish Government has a central Communications Division with specialised staff who deliver the following functions; frontline communication staff/press officers, public information and behaviour change marketing campaigns, strategy & behavioural insight, Brand Scotland brand marketing (cross organisational partnership), cross government strategic communications, digital platforms (including gov.scot) and social content function, media monitoring, internal organisation engagement and business administration management.

Right, sorry, carry on. Interested to see what else comes up.

??? hardly comparable to Boris et al. But good try

Thanks for spotting my consistency volver! Yes there are many aspects of NS and her government with which I'm profoundly dissatisfied as you know.
It was always rather chilling that SNP members all have to toe the line and never (publicly) disagree with the party line. The obfuscation when dealing with legal requests : delays and redactions ++ always a worry. The shocking judgement shown in so many fields from legal payments re football clubs, the colossal debacle re the ferries , the lowest life expectancy in Europe etc etc, och I could go on and on but the fact that she employs 175 spin doctors at a huge cost to the Scottish tax payer says it all. Who's at the top of this? Who's the sickeningly self pronounced 'chief mammy'? Why Nicola Sturgeon of course, queen of the selfies. Fed up? Moi?

I’m Welsh TopsyIrene06, and not involved in Scottish politics at all. This particular post is an attempt to defect from the UK government, to make out that Nicola Sturgeon accidentally forgetting her mask for a few seconds as she walked in from the street to a barbers is the same as the Partygate saga.

My take on it is that a particular few staunch Tory supporters dislike Nicola Sturgeon for being a strong woman who doesn’t take fools, and stands up for what she believes in. Underpinning it the is perception that England rules the UK, and the other nations should not be allowed to govern themselves. What grates on them most is that the national leaders are seen by a majority in the countries they lead as more effective than Boris. So, you regularly see transparent attempts to goad Scottish Gransnetters in particular, by people who don’t live in Scotland, or really have the knowledge to argue the detail. It’s much better when people who live there and are directly involved have an informed debate, because when they don’t agree they do at least know what they’re talking about.

I've no agenda about Nicola S or any politician here, but I think it shows how easily we are drifting back to our previous maskless behaviour without thinking.

Right everyone, I want to ask a question and maybe this thread is the right one. I have heard enough without getting an explanation.
What exactly has Nicola Sturgeon done to make her roundly disliked on here by some. I live in Scotland, am English but have only seen a straight talking intelligent woman for whom I do not vote but see no reason for such negativity directed at her.
I object to the remarks she gets on this thread especially when the complaints are coming from south of the border and with no explanation or back up with facts. Maybe they know more than they are letting on.
I mean it, please enlighten me. I repeat I am not an SNP voter but I object to the rudeness on here regarding someone whose only real problem for others, as I see it and I await the truth about her, is being a woman. I need to know genuinely what is the problem?
Thanks everyone.

The police have spoken to Nicola. "The force added it was satisfied that no further action was necessary. "

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61142777The force added it was satisfied that no further action was necessary.

While she's being questioned perhaps they can ask her if the missing 600,000 pounds of SNP funds have turned up yet. Dodgy dealings by the SNP.