Is Liz Truss intending to take the UK to war?

We are already at war. We have to stop the gremlin in the Kremlin. We have no choice about whether we fight - just which are the best circumstances to beat him which to me looks like now whilst he has considerably weakened his own forces.

I agree, I thought she was being over inflammatory too, she's after being the leader too, did you see the photos she had done recently? They were reminiscent of Margaret thatcher
I want all the tories out, I don't like this warmongering woman either

ive been watching her for some time,another bad un.

We are not at war. "War" is a legally defined state which must be declared and although some people seem to think "war" is just like the movies, it isn't.

But if you want to think about it like that, what about this: Careless talk costs lives. Somebody needs to have a word with Truss, Johnson, Biden and the rest.

We would be appear to BE at war as we are sending 8,000 troops to join a UN force in an exercise that surrounds Russia - reminiscent of Putin's 'exercise" that surrounded Ukraine before he invaded. I have no idea how Putin can be stopped - short of annihilating the Kremlin and all who in it sit. And that just doesn't bear thinking about as it implies a nuclear war - as he is working to his own megalomaniac agenda. I just wish we didn't have Johnson as PM at this time (although I can't think of anyone else either, from any political party, who is up to the job.)

Of course she is sabre rattling for War with Putin. !
Stupid stupid woman ! Very dangerous talk. Heaven help us all!

And she obviously sees herself as the new leader of the Tory party. She sees herself as another Margaret Thatcher very obviously.

I am seriously worried to be agreeing with volver again. Two days running. You’re so right. Putin is a volatile man, easily provoked. Truss is no diplomat. Neither are Biden or Johnson.

MaizieD

^I wish someone could find out what does President Putin really want with Ukraine.^

Ukraine has been at war with Russia for over 2 months and people still don't know what Putin is after? ?

He wants to rebuild the Soviet empire, dismantled in the 1980s. He claims that Ukraine has always been part of Russia and never an independent country in ts own right. He wants to obliterate the Ukranian people and culture.

It's suspected that his ambitions run to more than just reclaiming Ukraine for Russia. He has his eye on the neighbouring former Soviet states. He wants to Make Russia Great Again... In the meantime, a couple of deep sea ports with access to the Black Sea would come in very handy and ruin Ukraine's economy.

I totally agree with you MaizieD. We stood by when he invaded and took control of Crimea. Big mistake. It seems he would rather obliterate Ukraine and the Ukrainian people, than accept them as an autonomous state.

We would be appear to BE at war

Yeah? We're not though.

I’ve been looking at the recent statements from European PMs, presidents etc. and I can’t find any of them have used the inflammatory language that Liz Truss has. I wish she would draw in her horns because she is not doing the UK any favours.

Germanshepherdsmum

I am seriously worried to be agreeing with volver again. Two days running. You’re so right. Putin is a volatile man, easily provoked. Truss is no diplomat. Neither are Biden or Johnson.

Two days running.

I thought I'd dreamt it

No idea but she seems ambitious.

We would not ‘appear to be at war’ at all Taichinan. Don’t you understand what war is? Putin may call his war ‘an exercise’. However UN and NATO countries know how to carry out a proper military exercise and do so all the time.

As soon as I heard her speech it made me shudder. We know Putin has his spies listening to everything and she’s just poking the fire. Could so easily provoke him into even more dastardly actions. And they call Biden stupid!

I don’t know why the UN isn’t sending neutral multi-national peacekeeping forces in. As Russia is a founder member of the UN Putin would have to think very carefully before continuing his butchery in Ukraine

He didn't do a good job as Health Secretary, did he? They are all self-serving. Don't rate any of them. The able ones are not in the Cabinet, only Boris' yes men and women.

Coco, it would be seen as an act of aggression.

I agree entirely with UN multi-national peace-keeping force, but not with sending more armaments to Ukraine, which I deplore. Not in my name.
It's plain that Putin reacts to force and threats with more force and threats.

A peace keeping force would be armed and Russians would be killed. Imagine the consequences.

Putin may want more wars than the one, oops sorry, it is a "military operation" he already has on his hands.

Apparently, some pro-Russians seperatists in Moldavia would quite like one too.

No-one else is stupid enough to "want" war, but the EU has no intention of allowing Putin to get away with walking into Ukraine and saying "I want!" (Remember what we were told as children that those who said "I want" got? According to my mother, " A smacked bottom!"

For the simple, very good reason that if we, irrespective of whether we means the EU, NATO the EU + NATO, or any other combination of countries you can think of, lets Putin get away with what he has done, he will want more. A person like Putin can only be stopped by force - reasoned argument won't cut it.

Moldavia, Poland, Romania have good cause to be worried as they are next in line and Hungary should be worried too, but seems less so.

Someone once said "Si vis pacem, para bellum" "If you want peace, prepare for war" and that is precisely what Europe is doing right now. This does not mean we want or hope that it comes, but we are not prepared to caught napping as we were in 1940.

I hope and trust that the UN can get the civilians out of Mariupol - but I doubt it. The only way the soldiers have any hope of getting out is by letting the civilians get away first, then coming out guns blazing. Many of them will be killed, but that will be their fate if the Russians get their hands on them anyhow. So either they commit suicide like the garrison of Masada, or they fight till they drop.

I may be cynical, but I very much doubt any Ukranian soldiers left in Mariupol has a hope of getting out alive, unless the steel works have a sewer system reminiscent of the one in the ghetto at Warsaw.

He has everyone scared of what he could do next and he knows it, he's crazy and enjoying every blooming minute of it. Some of his soldiers are as bad as him when you listen to the disgusting things they are doing 'for kicks'. Scum.

winterwhite It's plain that Putin reacts to force and threats with more force and threats.

Are you suggesting that if we do not react to Putin by supporting Ukraine with armaments and telling Putin what we will do if he tries to invade another country or use nuclear weapons, that you think Putin will then stop, apologise and take all his army and guns out of Ukraine?

What do you suggest we do? Wag our finger at him amd tell him he is a naughty boy and he should go home? How do you think that would work?

The Russian army has killed babies. I am surprised that no-one has put a bullet in Putin.

Give it time.

Taichinan

We would be appear to BE at war as we are sending 8,000 troops to join a UN force in an exercise that surrounds Russia - reminiscent of Putin's 'exercise" that surrounded Ukraine before he invaded. I have no idea how Putin can be stopped - short of annihilating the Kremlin and all who in it sit. And that just doesn't bear thinking about as it implies a nuclear war - as he is working to his own megalomaniac agenda. I just wish we didn't have Johnson as PM at this time (although I can't think of anyone else either, from any political party, who is up to the job.)

Apparently we engage in exercises in the same countries every few years. The current troop movements are supposedly part of the cycle.