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So is JRM incredibly thick, a liar or both?

(38 Posts)
vegansrock Fri 29-Apr-22 14:43:51

It would cost less to rejoin that to keep up the present farce for years to come. No reason why we couldn’t have stayed in the single market as we were promised by leave campaigners.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Apr-22 14:41:49

How much do you think it would cost to try to rejoin and what further sacrifices would have to be made?

vegansrock Fri 29-Apr-22 14:31:40

That’s a very defeatist attitude. Brexit has cost billions , put British businesses at a huge disadvantage, increased red tape and bureaucracy and hasn't delivered any of its promises. There are even more migrants now - so much for controlling our borders. I wish some politician of any colour would come out and say this - it’s the elephant in the room.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Apr-22 14:01:18

I don’t think trying to join again would be a good idea. We would be in a lousy negotiating position. We just have to make the best of what we’ve ended up with.

Pepper59 Fri 29-Apr-22 13:58:12

For those of you who were unhappy with the Brexit vote. Is there not some kind of a campaign group for rejoining the EU on the go? I thought I saw it on Facebook but was not sure if it was a genuine group or not. Perhaps others on here have heard.

OakDryad Fri 29-Apr-22 13:40:06

John Crace on sparkling form in yesterday's paper:

Down at the Eurotunnel control centre, Jacob Rees-Mogg was also struggling to come to terms with the realities of Brexit. Just as the Northern Ireland protocol was slowly separating NI from the rest of the UK, so the new trade agreement with the EU would cost the UK a fortune in checks and tariffs. So the minister for Brexit opportunities was there to tell the nation that the opportunity he had identified was that Brexit was prohibitively expensive and would put thousands of companies out of business if properly implemented. Which he wasn’t going to do. He was going to delay it for a fourth time. So we would continue to take any foods from the EU unchecked.

Viva Brexit. Viva sovereignty.

Hard to know whether to laugh or cry.

tinyurl.com/ypk3675a

GrannyGravy13 Fri 29-Apr-22 13:36:14

Whitewavemark2

So if you are a brexiter, what do you think of this? Is this what you voted for?

I can answer that with one word NO

I am deeply dissatisfied and disappointed with the situation as it is.

LizzieDrip Fri 29-Apr-22 13:27:27

I am really interested to know how Brexiteers feel now - genuinely! Are you pleased with the current post-Brexit situation in the UK? Do you feel you’ve got what you voted for? Have you changed your mind? I voted to remain in the EU as I did not believe that leaving would benefit the UK. I currently feel that’s being played out. However, I always like to see both sides and am keen to hear the opinions of Brexiteers.

DiamondLily Fri 29-Apr-22 12:56:52

It's putting our businesses at a huge disadvantage:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61259832

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Apr-22 12:56:23

I’m glad I voted to remain.

Blossoming Fri 29-Apr-22 12:42:07

Many people predicted this, and many others ignored them and chose to believe the lies of people like JRM, who stood to gain personally.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-Apr-22 12:40:41

So if you are a brexiter, what do you think of this? Is this what you voted for?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-Apr-22 12:32:27

Post Brexit checks would cost a billion pound says JRM. Cost to food would be very significant.

Free trade is hugely advantageous to customers says JRM. So we left a huge free market market.

So foreign farmers can now export their goods unchecked into the U.K. , whilst our farmers have to jump through very expensive hoops to export to the EU.

There is no plan for this to change.

French fishermen have got almost everything they asked for.

There is nothing to say is there?

So we’ve brexited and the only businesses who are being penalised by the very government who extolled leaving are U.K. businesses, EU businesses - it is business as usual.