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Keir and Angela’s drinks party

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Allsorts Fri 29-Apr-22 17:53:54

After all the relentless droning on day after day, about Boris having a drink, the very same month we now find that Keir and Angela did the same. Pity the video came out or they might have got away with it, What hypocrisy, I believe the Durham police are going to treat this in exactly the same way as the conservatives were, or perhaps it’s different rules when you are the opposition, so let’s wait for the sort of apology Boris gave, the sort of grief Keir relentlessly day after day, war or no war, inflicted on Boris to resign, let’s hope he gets the same. All the time knowing what they had done but not owned up to and banking on not being caught out. Talk about two faced. How can you believe award he says. As he was fond of saying, rules are rules whomever you are. (If you are caught out).

Aveline Fri 29-Apr-22 18:08:58

It's not news about Starmer though. I saw that video of him drinking at a party ages ago.

Casdon Fri 29-Apr-22 18:11:56

Except it wasn’t a party.

Zonne Fri 29-Apr-22 18:43:32

This was months ago. It was investigated by Durham police who concluded,

“We do not believe an offence has been established in relation to the legislation and guidance in place at that time and will therefore take no further action in relation to this matter.”

And they didn’t treat it as the Met did the Tories, since they investigated it as soon as they knew about it, not months later in response to huge public pressure.

Despite Holden complaining to them now, and trying to spin their response as a new enquiry, all they have said is:

"[We] were sent a letter by Richard Holden MP on April 22.

"As a courtesy, we have replied to Mr Holden to confirm we have received that letter and will consider its contents before responding in due course."

But do keep desperately scraping away at that barrel bottom.

Madgran77 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:44:48

Casdon

Except it wasn’t a party.

And the Downing St one was apparently not a party either!! I'm not a fan of any of them really but....

1. Boris returns from a work visit; heads to Cabinet Room for a Covid meeting. Several staff come in with a cake and to wish him Happy Birthday, arranged by his wife. Rishi Sunak arrives for Covid Meeting, stands inside door. Whole shebang lasts 10 minutes and apparently the cake was never cut! Boris and Rishi carry on working

Boris and Rishi get fined (and Carrie)

2. Meanwhile Keir and Angela are out working - canvassing. Arrive at cronies office, meet for work! Stop for 15 minutes for Pizza ordered by colleagues (and apparently a beer). Carry on working!!

No-one fined

Guidance said meetings should be on line, no meeting indoors with people outside your bubble.

No idea if there were exceptions for Downing Street/Politicians/Civil Service or for Canvassing for elections. But I cant pretend to see a significant difference between the two events!

Madgran77 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:45:27

...but obviously two different police forces interpret this differently on the same law!!!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Apr-22 18:45:29

If they are found to have broken the rules I will be very pleased. Sauce for the goose etc. Breaking lockdown rules doesn’t have to have been done by being at a ‘party’.

Casdon Fri 29-Apr-22 18:46:39

Local elections are next Thursday, it’s another attempt to cast aspersions on Keir Starmer and Labour to mitigate the damage. As you say Zonne the bottom of the barrel has been reached.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Apr-22 18:47:20

I would imagine thats part of the polices job.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:47:50

It might not have been a party but for over a year Mr. Starmer et al gave denied Ms. Raynor was there, now all of a sudden they have remembered she was?…

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 18:50:54

scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind

Madgran77 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:53:15

Local elections are next Thursday, it’s another attempt to cast aspersions on Keir Starmer and Labour to mitigate the damage. As you say Zonne the bottom of the barrel has been reached.

It may well be but the point is - what IS the difference between the two events and why is the same law being apparently so differently interpreted. Not talking politics here, just fair application of justice - or not!!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:54:11

JaneJudge

scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind

No need for barrel scraping, they lied.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 18:54:55

is it always a coincidence that safe Tory seats don't have local elections at the same time? I have always wondered this

Casdon Fri 29-Apr-22 18:55:06

You shouldn’t laugh, but it broke here - look at the headline!
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764839/Keir-Starmer-flouted-Covid-lockdown-guidance-birthday-bash-TWO-cakes.html

MaizieD Fri 29-Apr-22 18:55:36

I think there's a significant difference between pizzas eaten as a meal with people you'd been working with and were still working with and a birthday cake, which is not a meal,not necessary sustenance, eaten with wife and interior designer, neither of whom were work colleagues.

I'm just surprised it's taken a week fir anyone to pick this up. The story, which had already done the rounds several months ago, was regurgitated on Monday.

Anyway, the point is still being missed. Johnson is being investigated by the Privileges Committee for lying to Parliament. Which is a resigning matter.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 18:56:47

there weren't restrictions in September 2020? children were back at school

MaizieD Fri 29-Apr-22 18:57:16

GrannyGravy13

JaneJudge

scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind

No need for barrel scraping, they lied.

Who lied, GG13?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 29-Apr-22 18:59:15

MaizieD I think you will find that the Labour Party have consistently denied that Angela Raynor was there. Now they have said she was.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 18:59:27

I read that link, they were working indoors and a small team had a cake?
It doesn't even sound comparable

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 19:00:10

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD I think you will find that the Labour Party have consistently denied that Angela Raynor was there. Now they have said she was.

where? I have't seen anything about it at all!

Urmstongran Fri 29-Apr-22 19:01:31

GrannyGravy13

It might not have been a party but for over a year Mr. Starmer et al gave denied Ms. Raynor was there, now all of a sudden they have remembered she was?…

In one GG13. This is the nub of the latest news on the subject.

Beggars belief doesn’t it?

Urmstongran Fri 29-Apr-22 19:02:57

It’s in the Mail today on line. And inthe Telegraph latest digital news bulletin.

Urmstongran Fri 29-Apr-22 19:11:41

A mistake in good faith my a**se. You do not make mistakes like that. It was a lie and we all know it. Perhaps somebody should have tapped Starmer and Rayner on the shoulder to advise them to make sure their own story is watertight before mounting the moral high horse. The pair of them look like fools now. And untrustworthy

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Apr-22 19:17:55

As a barrister, a QC even, Starmer should know the meaning of ‘in good faith’. He should also have a good memory.