After all the relentless droning on day after day, about Boris having a drink, the very same month we now find that Keir and Angela did the same. Pity the video came out or they might have got away with it, What hypocrisy, I believe the Durham police are going to treat this in exactly the same way as the conservatives were, or perhaps it’s different rules when you are the opposition, so let’s wait for the sort of apology Boris gave, the sort of grief Keir relentlessly day after day, war or no war, inflicted on Boris to resign, let’s hope he gets the same. All the time knowing what they had done but not owned up to and banking on not being caught out. Talk about two faced. How can you believe award he says. As he was fond of saying, rules are rules whomever you are. (If you are caught out).
No they weren't but in both cases, the interpretation applied to the particular events seems questionable linked to the rules at the time, even if they were different between the two events!
1. Boris returns from a work visit; heads to Cabinet Room for a Covid meeting. Several staff come in with a cake and to wish him Happy Birthday, arranged by his wife. Rishi Sunak arrives for Covid Meeting, stands inside door. Whole shebang lasts 10 minutes and apparently the cake was never cut! Boris and Rishi carry on working
Where have these details come from, Madgran77?
The police didn't release any details, did they?
Sue Grey passed the details of 12 of the 16 parties to the Met and they have questioned the people involved. I don't think that Grey would have passed details of a relatively innocuous 10 minutes to the police and I don't think the police would have bothered much about it.
If it hasn't come from the police or Sue Grey then it's hearsay and not reliable.
The Covid rules on 31st April 2021 and on 19th June 2020 weren’t the same though of course.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/timeline-coronavirus-lockdown-december-2021.pdf
They're banged to rights, I think.
Better than the 50 incidents by the Tories, but they still broke the rules.
Boris Johnson is the Prime Minister
I wonder how many MPs everywhere broke the rules, it is hardly the point is it
Boris Johnson was the Prime Minister and still is. Where is he?
Madgran77
*I think there's a significant difference between pizzas eaten as a meal with people you'd been working with and were still working with and a birthday cake, which is not a meal,not necessary sustenance, eaten with wife and interior designer, neither of whom were work colleagues*
My point is there may be a difference but a significant difference?? Not sure about that when you look at how each occurred.
Absolutely, Carrie should not have arranged it. But walking in on it, to a group of people who you work with on a daily basis, lasts 10 minutes etc etc etc....I'm NOT banging the drum for Boris atall. I AM saying that when you look at the details of each event within the context of the law at the time the two differing decisions are somewhat worrying in application of the law. And if the application is different here, what the heck was it like for the general public depending on interpretation of different forces?
Absolutely.
So really they are all the same. Sylvia
I think there's a significant difference between pizzas eaten as a meal with people you'd been working with and were still working with and a birthday cake, which is not a meal,not necessary sustenance, eaten with wife and interior designer, neither of whom were work colleagues
My point is there may be a difference but a significant difference?? Not sure about that when you look at how each occurred.
Absolutely, Carrie should not have arranged it. But walking in on it, to a group of people who you work with on a daily basis, lasts 10 minutes etc etc etc....I'm NOT banging the drum for Boris atall. I AM saying that when you look at the details of each event within the context of the law at the time the two differing decisions are somewhat worrying in application of the law. And if the application is different here, what the heck was it like for the general public depending on interpretation of different forces?
Mmmmm....doesn’t surprise me at all.
As a barrister, a QC even, Starmer should know the meaning of ‘in good faith’. He should also have a good memory.
A mistake in good faith my a**se. You do not make mistakes like that. It was a lie and we all know it. Perhaps somebody should have tapped Starmer and Rayner on the shoulder to advise them to make sure their own story is watertight before mounting the moral high horse. The pair of them look like fools now. And untrustworthy
It’s in the Mail today on line. And inthe Telegraph latest digital news bulletin.
GrannyGravy13
It might not have been a party but for over a year Mr. Starmer et al gave denied Ms. Raynor was there, now all of a sudden they have remembered she was?…
In one GG13. This is the nub of the latest news on the subject.
Beggars belief doesn’t it?
GrannyGravy13
MaizieD I think you will find that the Labour Party have consistently denied that Angela Raynor was there. Now they have said she was.
where? I have't seen anything about it at all!
I read that link, they were working indoors and a small team had a cake?
It doesn't even sound comparable
MaizieD I think you will find that the Labour Party have consistently denied that Angela Raynor was there. Now they have said she was.
GrannyGravy13
JaneJudge
scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind
No need for barrel scraping, they lied.
Who lied, GG13?
there weren't restrictions in September 2020? children were back at school
I think there's a significant difference between pizzas eaten as a meal with people you'd been working with and were still working with and a birthday cake, which is not a meal,not necessary sustenance, eaten with wife and interior designer, neither of whom were work colleagues.
I'm just surprised it's taken a week fir anyone to pick this up. The story, which had already done the rounds several months ago, was regurgitated on Monday.
Anyway, the point is still being missed. Johnson is being investigated by the Privileges Committee for lying to Parliament. Which is a resigning matter.
You shouldn’t laugh, but it broke here - look at the headline!
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764839/Keir-Starmer-flouted-Covid-lockdown-guidance-birthday-bash-TWO-cakes.html
is it always a coincidence that safe Tory seats don't have local elections at the same time? I have always wondered this
JaneJudge
scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind
No need for barrel scraping, they lied.
Local elections are next Thursday, it’s another attempt to cast aspersions on Keir Starmer and Labour to mitigate the damage. As you say Zonne the bottom of the barrel has been reached.
It may well be but the point is - what IS the difference between the two events and why is the same law being apparently so differently interpreted. Not talking politics here, just fair application of justice - or not!!
scraping the bottom of the barrel springs to mind
It might not have been a party but for over a year Mr. Starmer et al gave denied Ms. Raynor was there, now all of a sudden they have remembered she was?…
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