Johnson and Brexit

I see that Johnson is sending out negative messages over Truss’s plan to trash the protocol.

He is not supporting her with anything like enthusiasm.

It’s like a religious belief that has no basis in reality. The fact that we have to have a whole ministry of “Brexit Opportunities” is a demonstration of straw clutching.

And yet the BBC and all the rest of the right wing media always refer to Johnson having "got brexit done" as a positive achievement!

What's the betting that the readers of the Daily Express etc will be told that again and again at the time of the next election?

It does not matter how much evidence piles up that brexit is an utter disaster, they think that "got brexit done " will still be a willing slogan.

What is wrong with these dyed-in-the-wool leave voters that they cling to their belief in this nonsense?

The USA are to send a delegation of congress representatives to the U.K. admits a growing alarm at the threat to ignore the GFA by Johnson’s government.

One of the representatives is Richie Neal who has significant power over trade deals.

This is going to be a real test of USA / U.K./EU relationships at a time when solidarity is so important in relation to Russia.

The EU has responded to Truss’s suggestion that the protocol be re-negotiated. “No one is interested in starting new and complicated discussions over a protocol that was agreed and signed by all parties”

We are on the path to being entirely alone the way Johnson is going.

FannyCornforth

Could there be a less inviting thread title Whitewave?

Johnson and bacon sandwich?

I’d love to know what Dominic Grieve thinks about it. Oh for the time when we had attorney generals that believed in upholding the law not breaking it whenever possible.

Love the statement that the government have received “legal advise” that suggests that they can “legally” break the law relating to the protocol.

Who gave them this advise?

Suella Braverman??.

I’d like to see how that advise would stand up in an international court.

Remember

“When Johnson agreed to the revised Protocol in October 2019, he knew exactly what the consequences were, but he did so out of pure self-interest (to win the 2019 election).”

Katie59

“What I have no doubt will happen is that Johnson will refuse to carry out checks in the north sea and also refuse to put up border posts leaving and blaming the EU for doing so.”

This happens on the Swiss border, commercial goods go through customs checks wether this is practical in Ireland I’m not sure. The EU would erect and staff any border posts to collect any tariffs due, a lot would depend on Bidens reaction to that, he could make life very difficult for the UK.

To do so risks lives and the U.K. economy

National Institute for Social and economic research reporting that NI is performing better that U.K. mainland.

Doesn’t take much intelligence to guess why does it.

Still Johnson will soon put paid to that!

Katie59

Much of the cost rise has been due to the disruption due to Covid and recently the Ukraine war. Also Brexit changes, shortage of drivers and other labour, not just farms, hospitality and industry as well. UK farm output is lower due to new farm policy so more imports, all having to be bought with a weak sterling.
The latest inflation figures look very optimistic, I’m expecting it to get worse before they get better in 3 or 4 yrs time. Next winter with high fuel prices will be a challenge for sure.

Every country in Europe and elsewhere is having to deal with the impact of COVID and the war in Ukraine. They have different ways of dealing with it, and some are better than others.

There's only one having to deal with Brexit. The same one that are making a right pigs ear out of supporting people through the cost of living crisis.

As for inflation looking good for 3 or 4 years time, some of us won't be here by then.

“What I have no doubt will happen is that Johnson will refuse to carry out checks in the north sea and also refuse to put up border posts leaving and blaming the EU for doing so.”

This happens on the Swiss border, commercial goods go through customs checks wether this is practical in Ireland I’m not sure. The EU would erect and staff any border posts to collect any tariffs due, a lot would depend on Bidens reaction to that, he could make life very difficult for the UK.

Much of the cost rise has been due to the disruption due to Covid and recently the Ukraine war. Also Brexit changes, shortage of drivers and other labour, not just farms, hospitality and industry as well. UK farm output is lower due to new farm policy so more imports, all having to be bought with a weak sterling.
The latest inflation figures look very optimistic, I’m expecting it to get worse before they get better in 3 or 4 yrs time. Next winter with high fuel prices will be a challenge for sure.

The real problem is that the the safeguard provisions behind Article 16, should be sufficient in this case to solve the issue through both articles 14 and 15, but this government is absolutely resolute.

Johnson wants the checks gone, but this can never happen as far as the EU rules are concerned.

The only way for this to happen is for the border to be erected between the two Ireland’s, thereby trashing the GFA.

What I have no doubt will happen is that Johnson will refuse to carry out checks in the north sea and also refuse to put up border posts leaving and blaming the EU for doing so.

No one will be fooled by this behaviour except those in this country who are willing to risk the lives of both its citizens and the economy.

Vegansrock

Not all of them

www.gbnews.uk/news/brexit-british-businesses-may-give-up-imports-under-new-rules/195931

Well it’s part of the Treaty. We can invoke it and not break any rules. Same goes for Article 13. It’s why these clauses are inserted. They are there if deemed necessary.

Yes there was Urmstongran it was a rash comment and withdrawn within hours, unlike our own dear leaders threatening to break the treaty for months on end.

Article 16 is part of the Treaty. It can be invoked by either side if a situation is deemed unworkable (Ursula vdL didn’t hold back). There was no outcry from Brussels then.

Johnson is finding solving the Brexit protocol too difficult, so as always he will ditch something that takes a bit if effort, resulting in a disastrous trade war.

“Russ Jones

Cost of living crisis.
2 million skipping meals.
Inflation at 10%.
Exports down by billions.
Food imports down.
Home-grown food rotting in fields.
Growth plummeting.
Recession imminent.
State borrowing 3x what Labour left.

Perfect time to start a Brexit trade war.”

The Brexit Broadcasting Corporation take their orders from the powers that be and their billionaire donors.

Heavens, Vegansrock, is that really so (or understandable exaggeration).

Who can 'forbid' it and with what enforcement? If it affects all media outlets that's goodbye to a free press in this country.

It seems the BBC or any media outlet is forbidden to mention the B word when discussing increased food costs, labour shortages, lorries queueing for miles at Dover, the downturn in the economy, the billions of £s spent on Brexit, the easing of regulations which are damaging the environment etc etc

Are the DUP really deluded demanding that Johnson reneges on the NI protocol, even BJ knows the EU are not going to move and the DUP is not worth a trade war

Whitewavemark2

Nothing about NI. Still I suppose they have time.

Liz Truss is reportedly preparing draft legislation that would unilaterally scrap key parts of the Northern Ireland protocol, removing the need for checks on goods between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

No bill was announced in the Queen’s speech on Tuesday but the foreign secretary is reported to have asked officials to prepare the draft, which would put the UK in breach of its treaty obligations.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/10/liz-truss-preparing-to-tear-up-northern-ireland-protocol-reports

Supposedly ( I haven’t watched it ) people have complained to the BBC about Countryfile because they said that the shortage of vets was due to brexit. And they shouldn’t have said that. Even if it’s true. Which it probably is.