The loss of freedom of speech, of sidelining women and biology

More good news about turning worms.

Julie Bindel has won her case against Nottingham Council. We had a thread at the time, which I can't find, but JB was banned from giving a talk at Apsley Library (about violence against women and girls) because she had previously spoken up about women's rights being eroded by the trans lobby, and the council felt that her views were 'at odds' with the council's policy.

See more here.

Really good news. Perhaps it needed Fina to be brave enough to take the first step.

And there’s more ???

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10987627/Tax-expert-lost-job-tweeting-men-women-WINS-fresh-employment-tribunal.html

Link to the judgement.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Forstater-JR-AG.pdf

Men whose capabilities are reduced by illness, age or medication other than trans hormones, are not allowed to join the women's category and there's no reason to let men who are transwomen do so.

That is excellent news about Triathlon Stormystar.

And common sense is fast becoming a rare commodity nanna8

Oh, that is so good and so rare that commonsense has prevailed for once!

Yes fantastic news! And I’ve just read that the Triathlon is the first British sport to ban All transgender women from competing in female events at both elite and grassroots levels. Yippee!! they are changing the mens category to Open, after having concluded that Triathlon is a gender -affected sport. Thank goodness for fairness, common sense, and science prevailing.

Great news.

Fantastic news! I have copied Maya’s response so that I can quote it in the future.

Oh, that's excellent.

I'm just watching a recording of PMQs, and it really does feel like there is a glimpse of light now, after a long period in the darkness. A change of direction on women's rights would be the icing on the cake.

?. Good news

Only just seen the news and I'm delighted she's won! Another light at the end of the tunnel.

It's fantastic news ?????

Oh Farnorth you have made my day.

Maya Forstater's press statement:

mforstater.medium.com/press-statement-maya-forstaters-victory-in-employment-tribunal-a-win-for-free-speech-and-99365009baa1

"The Tribunal also recognised that Ms Forstater had been entitled to criticise those holding an opposite view to her, and had done so legitimately. The Tribunal found in particular that the mere fact that offence may be taken to a particular statement was not sufficient to render it incapable of legal protection. This included describing opposing views as “stupid, dangerous or unfair” and the statement that allowing male-bodied individuals access to women-only spaces gave rise to “an increase in risks, threats and discomfort” to women."

Maya Forstater has won her Employment Tribunal case !

www.judiciary.uk/judgments/maya-forstater-v-cgd-europe-center-for-global-development-masood-ahmed/

I couldn't agree more, FN. It's hard to imagine how people would react if they were told they couldn't call themselves British, or Asian, or black/white/brown, or whatever (I was going to say 'mother' or 'father', but caught myself on), yet those things are, arguably, all less integral to one's sense of self than one's sex.

From an opinion piece in the New York Times.

Women didn’t fight this long and this hard only to be told we couldn’t call ourselves women anymore. This isn’t just a semantic issue; it’s also a question of moral harm, an affront to our very sense of ourselves.

www.nytimes.com/2022/07/03/opinion/the-far-right-and-far-left-agree-on-one-thing-women-dont-count.html?fbclid=IwAR0BDmCo9x8gE-xfTrRGCJFgqHNNdwmd4No7d8WanGOetwCXqzMUDIrLTrM

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Hope so. It's time the pendulum started swinging back. ?

Smileless2012

Great news. Is it just me, or are we seeing some real positives?

No, I think so too. As Shakespeare said 'The smallest worm will turn being trodden on' - and women are tied of being trodden on.

Great news. Is it just me, or are we seeing some real positives?

Excellent.
Now they just have to sort out compulsory sharing in existing buildings.