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Tory illegal campaign donation

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Esspee Mon 16-May-22 10:26:45

Barclays Bank alerted the National Crime Agency to huge transactions to the Tory Party.
They traced a “clear line” to a pro Kremlin politician and flagged suspected money laundering and an illegal campaign donation.
nytimes.com/2022/05/12

Why did it take an American newspaper to unearth this latest disgraceful episode of corruption and why is it not headline news in this country?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 16-May-22 19:39:00

MerylStreep

Esspee

I must say I despair when I see people contributing to threads about whether or not you iron tea towels but few are interested in issues like this.

Have you seen the latest pile on on one of our posters?
Disgraceful ?

Yes, having an opposite opinion should not give a free range for personal insults.

volver Mon 16-May-22 19:35:38

I know GSM. It just sort of flowed out of my fingers though.

MerylStreep Mon 16-May-22 19:34:51

Esspee

I must say I despair when I see people contributing to threads about whether or not you iron tea towels but few are interested in issues like this.

Have you seen the latest pile on on one of our posters?
Disgraceful ?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 16-May-22 19:34:23

I don’t know who the Boris babes are. Certainly not me despite being a Conservative voter.

volver Mon 16-May-22 19:31:51

And I sometimes think that if Boris started stomping on kittens outside Parliament, the "Boris babes" would say there were too many kittens anyway and the snowflakes need to stop complaining.

Random thought....which do you think is more likely - Boris wrestling Putin or Boris stomping on kittens?

I've never used the phrase Boris babes before. Seems apt, though.

Floriel Mon 16-May-22 19:27:33

AGAA4

Esspee

I must say I despair when I see people contributing to threads about whether or not you iron tea towels but few are interested in issues like this.

I do take part in the light-hearted threads because if I spent my day thinking about BJ and the corruption I would get depressed.
This doesn't mean that every day I don't wonder why he is still our PM. What does he have to do to be removed?
I'm starting to think he could get away with anything ?

I sometimes think Boris could parachute into the Kremlin, wrestle Putin to the ground, sit on him till he expired and all the Boris-bashers would say is, ‘well, he’d do anything to get out of the lockdown party scandal.’

varian Mon 16-May-22 19:18:19

As so much of the media is in thrall to the Tory Party it is vital that the truth of matters they want to suppress is posted as widely as possible.

Grandmabatty Mon 16-May-22 18:27:58

To make it clear, I was not criticising the OP. I think it's important that threads like this are started and a reasonable debate can only add to people making up their mind. I feel some posters go out of their way to be nasty and callous and that's why I rarely post. If you are stronger then good fortune to you ?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 16-May-22 17:00:49

Callistemon, Grandmabatty, GrannyGravy and Kim, I wholeheartedly agree. The discussions cannot achieve anything in terms of change, but they certainly have the ability to upset people and drive them away. Trivialising light hearted threads that enable posters to engage without fear of ridicule or unpleasantness, and criticising posters for using them, doesn't help anyone. It's tantamount to suggesting they're just a bunch of airheads. They are people deserving of respect for their choices.

varian Mon 16-May-22 17:00:34

I have been on GN for a very long time and have always posted on the N&P threads.

By far and away the nastiest time was in the run up and the aftermath of the fraudulent referendum of 2016.

There was an unbelievable amount of vitriol especially from one side of the argument.

Jaberwok Mon 16-May-22 16:55:47

I'm afraid that happens all too often Grandmabatty, that's why unfortunately some people don't post on these threads anymore,

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 16-May-22 16:45:41

Sadly, I am not surprised ?.

Kim19 Mon 16-May-22 16:30:18

Tea towel trivia tends to stay semi pleasant and seldom outright nasty and point scoring.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-May-22 15:16:07

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Grandmabatty Mon 16-May-22 15:15:52

Espee I take your point about posting on lighthearted threads and not on serious issues which affect us all. I have posted occasionally on political threads and have had really unpleasant comments directed to me by some nasty individuals. I find it quite upsetting.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 16-May-22 15:13:22

I have control over my tea towel drawer and my ironing until the next GE I have no control/say whatsoever in the current Government.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-May-22 15:10:15

Germanshepherdsmum

Perhaps some people just want a bit of light hearted relief and companionship. The political threads aren’t for everyone. Doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t care. And most Conservative voters probably stay well away because they are not welcomed.

Perhaps some people just want a bit of light hearted relief and companionship

Probably they do.

How does discussing or getting angry on here about these things change anything? It can't.
It's like yelling at the television.
Perhaps it helps some posters let off steam but it might add to others' stress levels.

We don't know what other posters have going on in their lives either. Perhaps they just want a diversion from RL.

AGAA4 Mon 16-May-22 14:12:46

Esspee

I must say I despair when I see people contributing to threads about whether or not you iron tea towels but few are interested in issues like this.

I do take part in the light-hearted threads because if I spent my day thinking about BJ and the corruption I would get depressed.
This doesn't mean that every day I don't wonder why he is still our PM. What does he have to do to be removed?
I'm starting to think he could get away with anything ?

Esspee Mon 16-May-22 14:01:33

I believe this government has plumbed the depths of moral corruption and I find it frightening that the public seems to have decided to accept it.

I used to feel that the U.K. government maintained a high standard of ethics as opposed to corrupt governments elsewhere but now hardly a day passes without some sort of objectionable behaviour being exposed.

Is this what the U.K. has descended into?

volver Mon 16-May-22 13:52:06

Oh, poor old Conservatives.

Or maybe even they can't defend the actions of this government any more.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 16-May-22 13:50:32

Perhaps some people just want a bit of light hearted relief and companionship. The political threads aren’t for everyone. Doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t care. And most Conservative voters probably stay well away because they are not welcomed.

Esspee Mon 16-May-22 13:44:59

I must say I despair when I see people contributing to threads about whether or not you iron tea towels but few are interested in issues like this.

GeorgieH Mon 16-May-22 13:08:26

Damehood for Sue Evans ?

Oldbat1 Mon 16-May-22 13:07:38

Well I’m not at all surprised. I’m sure this is just the tip of the donation iceberg.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-May-22 13:02:02

It is still being investigated