Why is Johnson more popular than Starmer?

I dislike Starmer for 2 reasons
First is because as head of CPS nobody can seriously believe that he didn't know of the allegations against Jimmy Savile. Such a high profile person would have been common office knowledge. He did nothing about it.
Secondly his whole time in the commons is usually spent having a go at what Johnson is or has done wrong. That's fine but he doesn't say what Labour would do, what their main polices are, how they would change things etc.
He's just a complainer- rightly so as Tories have done a lot wrong- but how could you vote for a man with no purpose?

Goodness. Just catching up. GN seens to have descended into the standard far-right denial of the truth and spreading of lies.

Why does not attacking other posters only apply to some and not to others on here?

jeaniebequick- quite a rant there, totally misrepresenting Starmer’s work in the CPS to improve the investigation and prosecution of grooming gangs and sex offenders.
. Starmer was director of public prosecutions and appointed Nazis Afzal to lead his newly formed national network of specialist prosecutors for child abuse and sexual exploitation. Afzal believed his Pakistani heritage helped him re-open the case of the Rochdale grooming cases. Peddling untruths about Kier Starmer suits the narrative of some. It needs challenging. Criticise Starmer fairly but don’t repeat distortions of the truth. Afzal has often been quoted praising Starmer’s work at the DPP to improve the work for visions of sexual abuse. It remains scandalous that so few rape allegations get to court but that’s another debate

To be fair urmstongran I feel confident that any complaints about slander would focus elsewhere on this page

jeaniebequick You make an excellent apologist for unacceptable, illegal and selfish behaviour in this country. In fact you are wasted in a country like Britain. I think Mr Putin is looking for someone to explain away his (unsuccessful) invasion of Ukraine. You should apply for the job.

Hmm…better out than in ???

I bet you feel better now you've had that rant!

No, jeaniebquick, the whole bloody country wasn't flouting lockdown rules. Most of us had too much sense and civic responsibility. What about you?

But this isn’t about China. And where did you get the idea that Starmer was ‘born into wealth’ from?

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

I would have more confidence in Boris Johnson if he learnt to dress himself and comb his hair! He’s a disgrace!
I can’t imagine what other world leaders think of him.
As for his linguistic abilities - he can’t complete a sentence without ‘erm, erm, erm’.
I’d like to see Tobias Ellwood run for PM. He rose in my estimation when he went to the aid of the police officer during the London Bridge terror attack. I don’t know much about him, but he comes over as being really sincere. He’s ex-military so at least he should have some self-discipline (more than you can say for Johnson).

As an aside - isn’t Boris regarded as a ‘lucky General’ by some who work with him? Maybe he’s regarded as some sort of a talisman.

whilst Johnson was getting pissed,

Got any evidence to back up that allegation Galaxy?
Is this slanderous if not?

Simple short answer is that BJ seems to show all his frailties which somehow makes us feel safe, that naughty but lovable thing and Keir seems to tick all the boxes but is slightly scared and touch of the victim about him. Seems to do and say what he ought to say scared of making mistakes. It shouldn’t be such playground stuff but…the fearlessness and social confidence of BJ takes him far.

Harrysgranny

I think Boris did what others failed to do following the EU referendum. Then he did a reasonable job of steering us through the worst of covid. Quite frankly I am sickened by all the in fighting and back biting he has to suffer on a daily basis. I am not jealous of the downing street parties I'm sure they were good for relieving the tension I can only imagine to those with the responsibility of all our lives on their shoulders! I don't believe he should resign.. he is a human being - not a saint.. and who are the others who were involved in these parties.. and who are the tell tales who are now stirring up trouble for colleagues.. seem to me none of them are fit to take over from him !! As for the labour party-- don't get me started.. They should not be led by a man who looks like he is a pale shadow of Tony Blair, an aloof, educated SIR who dresses like a lawyer and smells of money.!

….I was just pondering on how we got to where we are now. And now I know…..

Oh and bless you ajswan the answer to your question is no I didnt receive furlough, I was/am a keyworker, so I worked through all but the very first lockdown, whilst Johnson was getting pissed, strangely enough we didnt have any works parties where people were vomiting etc. What idiots we were.

Just as an aside how does one find a man who smells of money, asking for a friend.

The invective from some of the posters on this topic is astonishing - mainly directed at Keir Starmer.

I am beginning to think that there should be a test before people are allowed to vote. The ignorance from some posters is beyond belief. I leave it to your imaginations as to my thoughts about some of them.

Kwest
Charismatic, charismatic our PM no no no!
Keir has a more credible likeable & logical approach.
I just can’t get past someone thinking Boris is charismatic.

We dont want educated people in power, that would be awful

I think Boris did what others failed to do following the EU referendum. Then he did a reasonable job of steering us through the worst of covid. Quite frankly I am sickened by all the in fighting and back biting he has to suffer on a daily basis. I am not jealous of the downing street parties I'm sure they were good for relieving the tension I can only imagine to those with the responsibility of all our lives on their shoulders! I don't believe he should resign.. he is a human being - not a saint.. and who are the others who were involved in these parties.. and who are the tell tales who are now stirring up trouble for colleagues.. seem to me none of them are fit to take over from him !! As for the labour party-- don't get me started.. They should not be led by a man who looks like he is a pale shadow of Tony Blair, an aloof, educated SIR who dresses like a lawyer and smells of money.!

His bon mots are memorable

. Indeed they were. 'tank topped bum boys' and 'piccaninnies with watermelon smiles' are the sort of things that do stick in the memory...

Lilyflower Goebbels was a brilliant writer of propaganda and Hitler was a spellbinding orator.

Well, yes, quite, and exactly why I said I was not assessing him as a man or a PM.

I’m not making a moral judgement, just a point about style.

I have my own theory as to l why Johnson is popular, here goes:
A huge proportion of people in this country are not the least bit interested in politics - they find the subject very boring and politicians very boring. There are many words to describe Johnson but boring isn't one of them. You can bet your bottom dollar that if you asked a huge crowd of people to quickly name a politician the first name most of them will give is .....Boris Johnson. Keir Starmer is a decent, honest, hard working MP (everything Boris isn't) but not exciting enough so when it comes to voting many will still vote Johnson.

Because starmer is a weak fence sitter . The labour party is a woke party without any viable policies