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H1954 Fri 20-May-22 15:07:26

So Mr & Mrs Sunak rank in the top 250 wealthiest people in the U.K.??
How can we possibly take him seriously when he claims to understand people's concerns over inflation, energy prices and the cost of living?
I bet they don't have to choose between heat and eat!

MaizieD Sat 21-May-22 11:20:54

Dickens ?

Dickens Sat 21-May-22 10:48:42

Happygirl79

Whitewavemark2

Someone said that you don’t judge an economy’s success by the amount of billionaires but by the level of poverty.

This economy is failing.

This!

I second This!

The level of poverty in this country is abysmal. And it's not because people are generally lazy, feckless, can't budget or any other of the myriad reasons sought to justify their poverty - it's because we can never satisfy the greed of the rich.

Greed, self-interest and individualism are now entrenched principles since Margaret Thatcher mandated these values. Boris Johnson and his chosen disciples are unsurprisingly the result of these ethics.

"Build Back Better" and "Levelling Up" are just empty slogans.

Around 11 million adults were to gain new qualifications at no cost to themselves... then behind the scenes, the Treasury pare back the funding.

We were to become a "global science superpower", but cuts in grants put thousands of jobs in peril, and the science budget into reverse.

Further education colleges - pledged £1.5 billion... with some colleges, already struggling, having to hand back £millions under the Education and Skills Funding Agency’s claw-back plans.

... the list is tediously longer than this.

Mantras, slogans, promises... and all the while the rich get richer and the rest of us stay where we are, or get poorer.

Happygirl79 Sat 21-May-22 08:54:49

Whitewavemark2

Someone said that you don’t judge an economy’s success by the amount of billionaires but by the level of poverty.

This economy is failing.

This!

Happygirl79 Sat 21-May-22 08:53:56

MayBee70

No problem with him being rich. Just have a problem about him doing nothing to help the poor in this country.

Well said. I totally agree

Dickens Sat 21-May-22 07:49:37

MayBee70

No problem with him being rich. Just have a problem about him doing nothing to help the poor in this country.

... exactly.

The rich can be rich - as long as they pay their taxes and, if in government, run it for the benefit of all, not just their wealthy counterparts.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-May-22 06:51:41

Someone said that you don’t judge an economy’s success by the amount of billionaires but by the level of poverty.

This economy is failing.

growstuff Fri 20-May-22 21:02:36

Sunak is the poorer partner in the marriage. Maybe he has to prove he's the more powerful. Speculation only - I have no idea what motivates him.

growstuff Fri 20-May-22 21:01:19

There's no disputing that Sinak and his wife are extremely wealthy.

The evidence would strongly suggest that he has no empathy with nor understanding of those who are really struggling financially.

Whether there is any connection between the above, I couldn't possibly say. hmm

Zonne Fri 20-May-22 20:34:00

Not in the long run. Once he leaves politics, he will make far more on the public speaking circuit, particularly in the US.

Apparently, he’s already practising: the latest ‘No 11 newsletter’ is headlined ‘Do the math’.

MaizieD Fri 20-May-22 20:29:44

Sago

He is not there to increase his wealth, he would have earned a lot more had he continued to work for the hedge fund.

No, he's there to serve the interests of the already wealthy.

Sago Fri 20-May-22 20:13:45

He is not there to increase his wealth, he would have earned a lot more had he continued to work for the hedge fund.

timetogo2016 Fri 20-May-22 19:25:11

The haves and the have nots are on different planets.
How can the haves know anything about struggling to pay bills etc.
And yet they sit there running and ruining lives on a day to day basis, and having the nerve to tell people to buy the cheapest supermarket food.
Were not bluddy stupid robots.

paddyann54 Fri 20-May-22 19:09:28

Is he in politics to increase his wealth ata much faster pace than he would without his connections? His FIL is apparently in reciept of hundreds of millions from the public purse for the Rwanda fiasco...he owns the land the proposed detention centres wer to be built,his wife had her hand in the till for furlough for companies that went bust after she's taken the
money
.Coincidence ?
I dont think so,he looked like a good guy until these things surfaced and no doubt there will be more.Toxic and Tories ,in this case it is ALL about the money .For them and their like ,let the rest of us go without ,save them pensions or healthcare when thousands of poor folk die next winter !

MayBee70 Fri 20-May-22 16:55:09

And votes against any policies that might help them. Along with most of the other MP’s from his party.

AGAA4 Fri 20-May-22 16:32:48

I don't care about Sunak's personal financial situation. What I do care about is the people who can't afford to eat and heat their homes while he sits on the fence doing what appears to be nothing.

MaizieD Fri 20-May-22 16:23:58

The problem with Sunak is that, although he knows about banking and making money he knows nothing about political economy.

It is beyond me why he went into politics in the first place. It's becoming clear that he's not much interested in the wellbeing of UK citizens. I can only think that his 'vision' was to try to ensure that the country is run for the benefit of the wealthy.

Adam Smith, one of the 'fathers of economics' (whose ideas have been much misinterpreted over the years) had this to say about legislative proposals from those who 'lived by profit':

The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the publick, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the publick, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.”

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Pantglas2 Fri 20-May-22 16:10:49

But none of them were born bankers were they?

They all had different experiences of privilege growing up - the suggestion that having money in later life makes you forget others struggles isn’t necessarily so.

MayBee70 Fri 20-May-22 16:04:50

aonk

So the only people allowed to become involved in politics must be from a deprived background so they can understand the difficulties encountered by so many of their voters? That won’t work very well. A knowledge of advanced economics and an understanding of national and global issues is far more useful.

Maybe a knowledge of global economics should result in a government that can handle the economy is such a way that we don’t have people unable to pay their fuel bills or having to rely on food banks. I think bankers just know how to help people that have money…I don’t think they have experience of people that don’t have any.

Calendargirl Fri 20-May-22 16:00:13

Margaret Thatcher was a grocer’s daughter, as we are constantly told.

Humble beginnings.

aonk Fri 20-May-22 15:56:40

So the only people allowed to become involved in politics must be from a deprived background so they can understand the difficulties encountered by so many of their voters? That won’t work very well. A knowledge of advanced economics and an understanding of national and global issues is far more useful.

Pantglas2 Fri 20-May-22 15:54:00

? = question mark
Normally placed at the end of a question ...which is something that is asked by someone who needs some clarification/information.

Are we really at the point in politics where all MPs etc have to have come from a council house with jobless parents, attended the local primary/secondary, not gone to Uni or achieved any qualifications and are in low paid jobs before entering parliament?

Where did Blair come on that measure or did he redeem himself by marrying a woman from a single parent family? Was Thatcher better, even though she married well?

MayBee70 Fri 20-May-22 15:51:05

No problem with him being rich. Just have a problem about him doing nothing to help the poor in this country.

Charleygirl5 Fri 20-May-22 15:42:43

rosie1959 it is not a case of not being able to carry out his chosen career- he does not understand how Joe/Josephine Public lives or the cost of food in a supermarket.

volver Fri 20-May-22 15:40:45

Honest to goodness, is that meant to be an argument? Gynaecologists? confused

Dunfermline's just been made a city. Carnegie was from Dunfermline. Gave all his money away, nearly, I bet if he was alive today he wouldn't be saying he can't help out because the computers won't let him.

Sago Fri 20-May-22 15:40:24

Pantglas2 I am saying that Mr Sunak maybe wealthy but it does not mean to say he cannot empathise, advise and help people who are struggling.
My GP is a male and will never know what it’s like to be menopausal but he has given me great help and prescribed what I needed.
I am saying male doctors can be great at understanding a woman’s problems and a rich man can help a poor man.