Cambridge University astrophysicist loses Esa project role over Brexit row

Urmstongran

No, it was more to highlight the fact that these migrants prefer the UK to France or other parts of Europe Zonne. In some eyes we must be better.

Well, I'm certainly regretting my decision not to stay in Spain. Lovely school. Fantastic healthcare.

They wouldn't have me now. Too hard to get non-EU workers work permits.

No, it was more to highlight the fact that these migrants prefer the UK to France or other parts of Europe Zonne. In some eyes we must be better.

From the Financial Times yesterday:

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“Kwasi Kwarteng, business secretary, has prepared an alternative plan to spend £6bn over three years on a new global science fund, if the EU refuses to let the UK take part in Horizon. University leaders believe Kwarteng could activate his plan as early as next month.”

Urmstongran

I think the rubber dinghy arrivees would totally disagree with you GagaJo.

I’m not sure ‘the UK is better than a war zone’ is quite the standard I’d like for this country.

Well look on the bright side- we may have Brexit but we have Liz Truss negotiating with the EU - oh hang on Liz Truss!!!

I think the rubber dinghy arrivees would totally disagree with you GagaJo.

I'm glad I'm older and not going to be around much longer, although I worry for my DGS. The UK is a s**t show. Huge poverty. NHS down the toilet. Education failing a huge amount of children. Bee pesticides legal. Add the world on fire from global warming...

It really is doomsday.

In the run up to the referendum, I was reading all the broadsheets to get a balanced view. I recall this very issue being discussed, the danger to scientific research funding and operations. It will not come as any surprise to people who looked beyond bus slogans and the other lies of Vote Leave. Another sad day in the constant stream of Brexit disasters.

I’m not a big fan of Truss. I think she’s a lightweight tbh. However she’s been negotiating with the EU up close and personal. I think she’s entitled to a changed viewpoint based on her personal experiences these last few months. She will be aware of more than most of us commenting on here.

Oh I don't think it does his media career any harm at all for people to think he's a star man . I think he did a lot of his academic work at CERN. But he is a good role model for science IMHO.

There was a general article about this on R4 this morning about 7.50.

I first came across him on "The Sky at Night" about 10 years ago and assumed he was an astrophysicist. Mea culpa!

This would be the Liz Truss who said that Brexit would not have any serious impact in Ireland…it would merely “affect a few farmers with turnips in the back of their trucks”?

The same Liz Truss who said remaining in the single market was vital for Nothern Ireland?

She’s a weathervane, twisting whichever way the Potential Tory leadership wind blows.

Absolutely growstuff. May went back to Uni to finish his doctorate, I'm full of admiration for that. The video link of Brian Cox is very good.

It's my passion for accuracy

volver

Brian's a professor of particle physics. He just likes standing on picturesque hill tops with the wind in his hair

My mistake :-(, but the message's the same and Brian May really is an astrophysicist.

Liz Truss really isn't the sharpest knife in the box and she seems to prove it every time she opens her mouth.

British science has already lost billions in research grants and the damage hasn't even really begun, as British scientists are emigrating and EU students and scientists prefer not to come to the UK. The UK will be the loser, as it's much easier for EU scientists to collaborate with each other rather than a third country.

Oh dear. Ug's quoting from the Brexit comic again.

Urmstongran “When the evidence changes it suits my ambitions better, I change my mind,” she responds. “I think that’s the right thing to do.”

There, fixed that for you.

Brian's a professor of particle physics. He just likes standing on picturesque hill tops with the wind in his hair

There's a reason Queen's Brian May (with a PhD in astrophysics) wrote "I’m dreaming of a Brexit-free Christmas…
I wonder if I’m the only one praying tonight for a miracle which will make Brexit, deal or no deal, simply go away…. ? The legacy of the vain, arrogant and badly-advised…"

Or listen to another astrophysicist:

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10153884743426200

Look up Horizon, its not just the Guardian. We are well and truly side-lined. But ach well, its only astrophysics.

Who do I think has got the measure of things? World class scientists or Liz Truss?

Answers on a postcard.

Liz Truss today:

“If I could go back to 2016, I would vote to leave,” she tells The Telegraph, mulling over the week that was in her palatial Foreign Office workspace. “What I’ve seen in both my job in trade and my role as Foreign Secretary is the new freedom and impetus that having an independent trade policy and independent foreign policy has enabled us to do. And also, the portents of doom haven’t come to fruition.”

But were you not one of the doomsayers yourself, Foreign Secretary? “When the evidence changes, I change my mind,” she responds. “I think that’s the right thing to do.”

I’m not surprised the Guardian takes a different slant on Brexit. I will see if this story is in the Telegraph later. A different perspective might be interesting what?

Do you think people who voted for Brexit might come on this thread and complain about elite astrophysicists, who do they think they are?

It's democracy, innit? Get over it. You lost.

People who voted leave have one (or both) feet in the past. Britain is on the road to nowhere; encourage your grandkids to emigrate.

I think people voted for Brexit because they had no idea what it meant and thought that they were voting for something in particular, but that thing was never on the ballot paper.

Recently, Roger Daltrey was in the news saying this wasn't the Brexit he voted for. Well, it is. This is Brexit.