How would you get MPs to focus on their jobs not sex?

It's not about sex it's about rape and assault. Soneone having an affair whether that's Rayner or Johnson is a very different thing.

No mention of Angela Rayner and her married lover?
Odd, that.

MaizieD

I was just going on the thread title which is asking how to get MP’s to focus on their job not sex. I didn’t read the full opening post.
The thread title is very misleading.

Anyway,
Off to enjoy the sun. ☀️
Have a lovely day

You miss my point Kandinsky. Profumo's affair was a matter of national security because Keeler was also involved with Soviet Yevgeny Ivanov. Thorpe's affair involved a murder plot to try to get rid of his discarded lover Scott. These events may be long ago but do you not understand how Parliament works? Very little escapes the whips about what MPS do inside and outside of Parliament and their peccadillos are used to control divisions. Successive whips will likely have know about the behaviour of the Tory MP arrested last week long before it ever became public knowledge.

Jeremy Thorpe was booted out for plotting to have his 'lover' killed.

Profumo was sleeping with a girl who was also sleeping with with a Soviet attache, which could have posed a security risk.

It is a matter of concern what public servants are doing outside as well as inside Parliament as it goes to trust and security. Profumo? Thorpe?

Jeremy Thorpe was having extra marital gay sex in less enlightened times. They booted him out purely for the embarrassment factor.

Profumo - wasn’t that the 60’s?
Literally decades ago.

We're not, in general, talking about 'affairs' here, are we? Those are consensual.

We're talking about sexual harassment, rape, and, in the latest case, drugging people for non consensual sex. This is abuse of power and downright nastiness.

Off with their balls...

Kandinsky

*I think if people behave incontinently in their private lives it’s a certainty that they do in their public lives too*

No not at all.
The best heart surgeon in the world can be having an affair but he’s still a brilliant surgeon.
I have friends who are married to police officers - nearly all of them are having ( or have had ) affairs. Same as when I worked in banking/ offices.
It’s human nature. It doesn’t mean you’re bad at your job.

Agree, so many public servants are not squeeky clean... Are you including all the current Women MP's as well?

It is a matter of concern what public servants are doing outside as well as inside Parliament as it goes to trust and security. Profumo? Thorpe?

Teaching is also pretty bad for affairs ( again, from personal experience )

So basically - anywhere where you get lots of people working together.
It will never stop.

I think if people behave incontinently in their private lives it’s a certainty that they do in their public lives too

No not at all.
The best heart surgeon in the world can be having an affair but he’s still a brilliant surgeon.
I have friends who are married to police officers - nearly all of them are having ( or have had ) affairs. Same as when I worked in banking/ offices.
It’s human nature. It doesn’t mean you’re bad at your job.

That reply was to the above 2 posts.

Kandinsky

I personally couldn’t care less how many affairs MP’s have ( unless they’re the minister for ‘don’t have affairs’ haha )
If it’s all consensual and over 18 who cares?
You can be squeaky clean and a crap MP.

Do you really mean that Kandinsky? I think if people behave incontinently in their private lives it’s a certainty that they do in their public lives too.

Yes of course - that’s different.

Kandinsky it’s not the affairs per se. What they do in their own time and away from their offices is up to them, Snogging in the corridors of power and according their lovers preferential treatment is a different matter.

Kandinsky

I personally couldn’t care less how many affairs MP’s have ( unless they’re the minister for ‘don’t have affairs’ haha )
If it’s all consensual and over 18 who cares?
You can be squeaky clean and a crap MP.

I agree - but we are not talking affairs here or consensual sexual activity - we are talking sexual harassment and, in at least one instance, a rape accusation. I do mind if our elected representatives are engaging in this sort of behaviour.

Castration could be an option.

I've got a very nice new set of secateurs.......

My first thought was castration but that seems a little harsh, so I’d go for banning alcohol from the premises and putting bromide in the tea/coffee.

I personally couldn’t care less how many affairs MP’s have ( unless they’re the minister for ‘don’t have affairs’ haha )
If it’s all consensual and over 18 who cares?
You can be squeaky clean and a crap MP.

OakDryad Maybe they should include sex with each other as part of their duties. It would solve that problem and keep them all happy.

This from a 2004 article in The Independent:

In the First World War, frontline troops who were away from their loved ones for long periods famously had bromide put into their tea to reduce the distraction of their sexual drive. But yesterday it was suggested that such measures might be taken a lot further – to Mars, in fact.

Dr Rachel Armstrong, speaking yesterday at a British Interplanetary Society symposium on the Human Future and Space, said the US space agency NASA was considering how to deal with the natural urges of astronauts travelling on long journeys such as a three-year trip to Mars, where the six-strong crew would be likely to include two women.

I can't imagine how gruesome it must be to share a bed with Boris Johnson...?

Wish I knew! Wish I understood the attraction they seem to have for some women too, I mean David Mellor? John Major? Bill Clinton? Boris?
It must be the pheromones exuded by power or else their high levels of testosterone are part of what drives a politician. (But still Jihn Major? )

It starts at the top.

Given Johnson’s history - no chance.