Remember when you voted to take back sovereignty?

Is the problem that the majority of people cannot be bothered to look deeper into what politics is or realise that political decisions affect all aspects of our lives? Mostly they prefer a yes or no, a right or wrong and a black or white answer to any questions that arise. They fail to understand this is not the way to deal with very complicated issues. I'm not sure many are blessed with common sense.

We, therefore, are now in a very unpalatable situation with a right wing "government" that think they have permission to say and do anything their hearts desire without regard for anything but their own aggrandizement. They are (17th C word) 'catchfarts' led by a sociopath.

MaizieD the new act passed in March this year means there has to be a general election before January 2025, so as I said a couple of years away, although Boris could call it sooner but I doubt he will.
Thankyou Nadateturbe for the precise info. MaizieD your apologies are accepted.

Jane43

Caleo

I blame people who voted for Brexit

Why don’t you blame the people who lied through their teeth about the benefits of Brexit rather than the people who believed those lies?

Anyone with a grain of commonsense could see that they were lies. There were enough people pointing out that it was lies. But the Devil has all the best tunes... (and Russian funding)

Sorry, that was to MaisieD*

Just had a quick look at the legislation.

TheDissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022repealed the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 (FTPA) and made the maximum term of a Parliament (rather than the period between general elections) five years

Mollygo

Caleo

I blame people who voted for Brexit

I blame also, the people who didn’t bother to vote against Brexit.

I know people who didn’t vote because they just didn't know who or want to believe about such a complex issue so I certainly don’t blame them.

Caleo

I blame people who voted for Brexit

Why don’t you blame the people who lied through their teeth about the benefits of Brexit rather than the people who believed those lies?

Caleo

I blame people who voted for Brexit

I blame also, the people who didn’t bother to vote against Brexit.

Tweet

“It’s not even one rule for us and one rule for them anymore. They’re dismantling their rules.”

the Fixed Term Parliament Act has been repealed

I didn't know that MaisieD.
Good gracious, could it get much worse!?

We need an effective HoS, definitely.

My MA, is DUP , so fat lot of good that will do. Perhaps email the Alliance guy.

CNN reporting on the Sue Grey report and Johnson. Interestingly they quoted a “very senior Conservative” as saying that the problem is that the voter is now seeing the “real” Johnson and not the Johnson he likes to portray to the world.

25Avalon

A dictator stays for ever. You cannot vote them out. We have a general election in a couple of years when the vote can be turned around, or not, as the case may be but I can’t see Boris remaining as the leader of the Tory party. Incidentally it is rumoured Tony Blair may be looking at starting a new party.

What makes you so positive that we're going to have a GE in a couple of years? You know that the Fixed Term Parliament Act has been repealed, don't you? With a compliant majority Johnson is under no obligation to call for a GE, whatever 'the country' may feel about him..

And if we do get a GE, his government has been working hard at restricting the electorate, taking control of supposedly 'independent' bodies such as the Electoral Commission and curtailing the ability of institutions, such as charities to make points which could be construed as political.. So what chance openness in election campaigning? Not to mention very little action has been taken against 'dark ads' on social media..

I have no confidence in the future..

I had missed the news of Johnson's latest move, so, when my sister mentioned it, the first word that entered my head was 'dictatorship'. That is the way we are heading unless his own party finally recognises the monster they have spawned. Are his MPs too afraid that if they ditched him they would lose their seats? Or will the electorate come to its senses and send the whole lot packing? Am I right to fear the power of the Tory press?

A dictator stays for ever. You cannot vote them out. We have a general election in a couple of years when the vote can be turned around, or not, as the case may be but I can’t see Boris remaining as the leader of the Tory party. Incidentally it is rumoured Tony Blair may be looking at starting a new party.

grany
The changes to the ministerial code are dangerous. Lobby your MP, now. Before it is too late.

Parliament has broken up for a couple of weeks certainly planned so that people cannot complain. All to be forgotten after 2 weeks holiday and the long bank holiday weekend.

One senior Tory said “we are going to lose- we are on our way out”

Fingers crossed that this is the one time they're telling the truth.

Urmstongran

Goodness. Another thread on the same theme? Don’t you get bored? We will all just circle around the same old plug hole surely? I’m off to enjoy a sunny day!

Yes, it's deeply boring - but wd need to keep awake on this man and his shameless power-grab

I just find the whole thing astounding. The membership of the Conservative Party voted for him to be their leader. He was fun, a breath of fresh air, not stuffy at all, someone popular. They disregarded his time as Mayor of London, the money wasted on his Garden Bridge, they disregarded his time as Foreign Secretary and ensuring Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe got an extra 5 years in jail, they disregarded his sacking from the Spectator for lying. They wanted someone different in order to retain power, and they got it. Unfortunately we did too.
Now he is consolidating his power by rewriting the ministerial code so no-one need resign unless the PM wants them to.
Conservative Party members - what happened to the party of law and order, morality and honesty?

Zoejory

*I used to wonder what it might feel like to live under a dictator - sadly, now I know.*

You have absolutely no idea what it's like to live under a dictator. Believe me. I've been there. And when I hear people come out with this absurd comment it just irritates me.

But the point is, we are on the way to it. No we're not in Russia or China. But we're not in democratic Britain anymore either.

The majority of MPs realise that Brexit is a disaster, but to admit it would bring their raisin d’etre crashing down.

I blame people who voted for Brexit

One senior Tory said “we are going to lose- we are on our way out”
??

Blossoming

I didn’t vote to ‘take back sovereignty’.

There is always an exception, I think that we understand that?

I didn’t vote to ‘take back sovereignty’.

I've emailed my Tory MP again. No reply to the last emails I have sent him, but maybe, just maybe, somebody is counting the number of emails in their inboxes...

Not good, indeed, DiamondLily.