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Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jun-22 10:32:53

It seems that the Home Secretary is willing to send people who having spent their recent lives escaping war are now to find themselves forcibly transported to a country now at war with its neighbour.

What is the matter with Patel?

vegansrock Mon 13-Jun-22 07:30:23

It was going to be 135 on the plane, now it’s 35, all of whom have legal challenges. Would they still send them when it gets down to single figures? is it worth the cost of the aircraft? The U.k. could set up centres in France to hear migrants claims - the French have offered - why don’t they do that? Oh no, that would seem too humane.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Jun-22 07:24:02

Everything crossed for the hearing today.

NotSpaghetti Sun 12-Jun-22 09:12:40

Pity we couldn't spend the £1.4 billion on sensible schemes for applying to come here and on resettlement.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-Jun-22 08:42:25

Utter insanity

“Refugee Council reckons the Rwanda scheme will cost taxpayers £1.4 billion a year. Quite on top of the nasty, immoral nature of it that's a hell of a lot of money to placate some racists.”

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-Jun-22 08:28:54

Actually I think the agreement includes the U.K. taking in Rwandan refugees. So perhaps they may like to build a life here.

mumofmadboys Sun 12-Jun-22 08:00:30

When we have so many jobs we cannot fill and our care system and hospitality industry are falling apart why can't refugees stay here?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:58:52

Callistemon21

FannyCornforth

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Yet Rwanda has created, and continues to create, countless refugees of its own. At least 287,000 Rwandans live outside the country, having fled from the regime of President Paul Kagame – and it is estimated the figure could be as high as one million.

inews.co.uk/news/world/rwanda-uk-asylum-refugees-first-flight-1672249

It's just farcical.

It’s like a pantomime

Callistemon21 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:39:04

FannyCornforth

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Yet Rwanda has created, and continues to create, countless refugees of its own. At least 287,000 Rwandans live outside the country, having fled from the regime of President Paul Kagame – and it is estimated the figure could be as high as one million.

inews.co.uk/news/world/rwanda-uk-asylum-refugees-first-flight-1672249

It's just farcical.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:32:09

Riverwalk

They're being given anti-malarial tablets - all heart this government.

What about necessary injections? What if they fall ill? Who is responsible for their care?

nadateturbe Sat 11-Jun-22 15:49:01

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

Agree.

Riverwalk Sat 11-Jun-22 14:32:25

They're being given anti-malarial tablets - all heart this government.

Casdon Sat 11-Jun-22 09:06:58

volver

DiamondLily

Whatever the rights and wrongs, Prince Charles should stay right out of it.

He should take a lesson from his mother - do not involve royalty in government decisions.

As a side issue, has Charles offered up any accommodation to help with all this? ?

I disagree with you there.

Charles learnt from his mum to keep quiet and we've ended up with a Head of State that does nothing when disastrous things happen to this country. We all stand around waving flags and gushing over children while the government of the day breaks international law and ruins this future of this country.

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

I think Prince Charles knew exactly what he was doing. He has to remain ostensibly politically neutral, but getting his message out through ‘a source’ has worked.

volver Sat 11-Jun-22 09:03:28

DiamondLily

Whatever the rights and wrongs, Prince Charles should stay right out of it.

He should take a lesson from his mother - do not involve royalty in government decisions.

As a side issue, has Charles offered up any accommodation to help with all this? ?

I disagree with you there.

Charles learnt from his mum to keep quiet and we've ended up with a Head of State that does nothing when disastrous things happen to this country. We all stand around waving flags and gushing over children while the government of the day breaks international law and ruins this future of this country.

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 07:26:18

When this government falls, I hope the truth of everything finally comes out as I think it will finish the Tories for ever.

It is so sad because the Conservative party has been infiltrated by such a lot of far right activists. If I was a Tory supporter I would want to see a complete clear out of these people and the honourable, paternalistic political, party I grew up with claim once again the Conservative party.

Allsorts Sat 11-Jun-22 07:22:48

Rwanda not a good idea but it won’t happen, The question that needs addressing, but no one will, why do Asylum Seekers, travel through many safe countries, to get here! I think you can only jump up and down about accepting everyone if you house them yourself, it not up to someone else.. There is a housing shortage, people struggling to feed families, living in sub standard accommodation as we have seen, some of them 20 years. It’s not realistic to keep taking them. It’s less for everyone of us in the end, lots bottom of the pile here already, trying to survive.

FannyCornforth Sat 11-Jun-22 07:18:24

I know! It sounds mad, but the chap sounded very plausible (from what I could hear over the kettle)

I wouldn’t put it past Patel to have made an even bigger balls up of it.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 07:14:29

FannyCornforth

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Does Rwanda have asylum seekers? I would not have thought so in any large numbers.

FannyCornforth Sat 11-Jun-22 07:12:53

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 07:08:42

Don’t let this detract you from the real and evil issue.

DiamondLily Sat 11-Jun-22 07:07:21

Yes, all news channels are confirming it now. He should keep it zipped, or stand for some sort of election.?

nadateturbe Sat 11-Jun-22 07:05:25

Just heard this confirmed on BBC news.

FannyCornforth Sat 11-Jun-22 06:56:13

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-charles-flying-migrants-to-rwanda-is-appalling-l6jzklfhm

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 06:39:29

Re Prince Charles. Not one named source here. Just the word 'appalled' in quotation marks. For all we know, he could have been saying, he was appalled at having to go to Rwanda on (23 June)at a time when the Left have portrayed that country as a backwater.

BlueBelle Sat 11-Jun-22 06:37:33

Disgusting disgusting disgusting
Im ashamed of my country
I m overwhelmed with dislike and distrust for Patel
I can’t say any more
This government have totally ruined the country and it won’t recover in my lifetime

FannyCornforth Sat 11-Jun-22 06:04:40

Charles has neither confirmed or denied that he called it ‘appalling’.
His people insist that his is ‘politically neutral’.
The Times and The Daily Mail are both claiming the story is
‘exclusive’.