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CaravanSerai

I do not know what the deleted post said but generally, I would much rather this site allowed for posts which mods deem offensive to be greyed out but leaving them in situ. The content is no longer “in your face” and can still be read but needs a bit of effort to do so. Other forums do this. It would cut out all the post-deletion speculation too.

Moderating here is subjective and often seems indiscriminate and unfair e.g. provocative posts are left in situ but reasonable and perfectly justifiable responses are deleted. This creates a distortion of events. Pointless making representations to GNHQ as we know little is spent on the site and historical requests said to have been referred the “back room team” ages ago have still not been implemented.

They can’t leave racist posts up for legal reasons

You cant expect them to do that I am afraid. Whatever my views are on moderation of speech, you cant really expect a website to take the fall for peoples comments. It's an issue we need to tackle as a society rather than expect websites to deal with it.

I do not know what the deleted post said but generally, I would much rather this site allowed for posts which mods deem offensive to be greyed out but leaving them in situ. The content is no longer “in your face” and can still be read but needs a bit of effort to do so. Other forums do this. It would cut out all the post-deletion speculation too.

Moderating here is subjective and often seems indiscriminate and unfair e.g. provocative posts are left in situ but reasonable and perfectly justifiable responses are deleted. This creates a distortion of events. Pointless making representations to GNHQ as we know little is spent on the site and historical requests said to have been referred the “back room team” ages ago have still not been implemented.

Well it wasn't me, I didn't even see the post before it was reported, but if, as we suspect, it was racist then I certainly would have reported it. Freedom of speech does not include freedom to offend, and I have been offended by said poster many times. There, I have outed myself as a woke, liberal, leftie.

GrannyGravy13

FYI it’s still possible to read GN threads whilst banned

I'm not really bothered about that, either, TBH

Whitewavemark2

Today is the 6th anniversary of Joe Cox’s death by a white supremicist who action it is thought was prompted by the hate speech prevalent at the time.

Today a human rights QC posted that he had been having death threats prompted in part by Johnson’s language.

We ALL have a duty to modify our language and avoid racism.

There is no excuse.

Precisely.

Today is the 6th anniversary of Joe Cox’s death by a white supremicist who action it is thought was prompted by the hate speech prevalent at the time.

Today a human rights QC posted that he had been having death threats prompted in part by Johnson’s language.

We ALL have a duty to modify our language and avoid racism.

There is no excuse.

GrannyGravy13

FYI it’s still possible to read GN threads whilst banned

I assumed that is the case. I’m not sure why it should matter though?

FYI it’s still possible to read GN threads whilst banned

It wasn't me. I was at the hairdressers. Not there when I went, gone when I came back.

(TBH, I don't bother to read Ug's posts so I could have slid past it without it registering.)

volver

Trouble is, that "non-PC" comments, aren't just done in a vacuum. They are indicative of the way a person thinks and can often lead to unacceptable ideas and comments.

Absolutely. I always assume that any extreme views are tempered by the fact that it is being posted on here and so it is only indicative of what a person thinks. The truth is probably far worse unfortunately.

It wisnae me either but I did see the post. I am aware that Ug is outspoken with her controversial opinions but I was disappointed to read comments that I considered to be racist. GNHQ couldn’t let that stand.

Trouble is, that "non-PC" comments, aren't just done in a vacuum. They are indicative of the way a person thinks and can often lead to unacceptable ideas and comments.

Without knowing exactly what she said it’s impossible for me to know how bad it was, or if it was a non-PC comment which we know she tends to make.

That was about the 14:11 post by GSM.

I find that quite odd, though. Why do any of us need to know that some of us are anti-racist? So that people who support a reported poster can have a go at them? If you (generic) don't want to be reported, don't be racist.

I have been in touch with Urms at least one person reported her.

She has a temporary ban.

I didn’t see the post but if anyone makes a report which leads to a poster being banned I think they should have the courage of their convictions.

It doesn’t always have to be someone on the thread who reports. There are plenty of ‘lurkers’ who just read threads without contributing.

Wisnae me, miss.

I do own up when I report. Not that there is anything to "own up" up for. Limiting the dissemination of racism? Seems fair enough to me.

I didn’t even see the post.

It’s pretty obvious from GN’s message that there’s been at least one report. I don’t believe they read threads unless they have received at least one report. So whoever you are, own up!

Of course somebody reported it GN don't police the threads posters do. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes.

I missed the post this morning, but I’d be confident in saying that the vast majority of regular posters have the courage of their convictions, and would say if they had reported a post. I have reported somebody before for racism (not UG) and said so on the thread, as several others have done, to my knowledge.
Whitewavemark2 is right in saying that if GNHQ see a post that’s racist they have to take it down even if nobody has reported it - my guess is that this is a thread they would have been keeping an eye on. .

Unlikely. It certainly looks as if Urms has been suspended