DWP to get powers of arrest, search and seizure

Plenty of jobs to be had, might not be your dream job but no excuse not to have one.

Germanshepherdsmum

I thought I’d made it clear that it wasn’t.

It could easily be me that misread it GSM. However, that isn't even hearsay, is it. Just rather malicious gossip.

I believe they are recruiting additional staff to combat fraud Humduh, not using those who already help people get jobs or claim benefits.

Maudi

Plenty of jobs to be had, might not be your dream job but no excuse not to have one.

I imagine some are thinking it isn't worth it if it costs more to work than you get paid.

Of course, Maudi, we can all move into the country and take the farming or fruit-picking jobs which the Eastern Europeans used to do. Wonder why that's not working...

Plenty of jobs look at the airports staff needed to load baggage on to the planes, nothing to do with Eastern Europeans and fruit picking. Plenty of jobs in supermarkets etc.

Maudi

Plenty of jobs look at the airports staff needed to load baggage on to the planes, nothing to do with Eastern Europeans and fruit picking. Plenty of jobs in supermarkets etc.

This is such a trite argument. Do you know if those without a job are in a demographic that would be required for the jobs available? Why not go the whole way and set up slave labour camps?

Seems you are just making excuses, not many qualifications needed for work in supermarket or a coffee shop, house/office cleaner. If you want to work there are jobs to be had.

This is true Maudi. I suspect many think some jobs are beneath them. I’m very grateful that there are local people who don’t think it beneath them to cut the asparagus and pick the soft fruit at the farm up the road which, thanks to them, I’m enjoying.

Maudi

Plenty of jobs look at the airports staff needed to load baggage on to the planes, nothing to do with Eastern Europeans and fruit picking. Plenty of jobs in supermarkets etc.

I could be wrong, but I would hazard a guess that most people in receipt of income and/ or savings-related benefits (the groups most likely to be targeted by the new powers) either already have a job, or are retired and getting pension credit.

The assumption that anyone getting benefits must be a lazy, work-shy scrounger is just so lazy and ignorant.

If you have been on benefits for say 3 months (I'm being generous here) and have not found a job or have been unwilling to take a job (more likely in my opinion) you should be allocated a job whether you like it or not or your benefits will be stopped. If only I were in charge of the country I'd soon have it sorted.

Some of the most in-demand jobs in UK in 2022. How many could you walk into Maudi?

Project Management:
Software Development:
Nursing:
Graphic Design:
Digital Marketing:
Engineering:
Technical Support:
Cybersecurity:
Operations Management:
Teaching:

There are a good many unskilled vacancies Daisy.

Plenty of shop, catering vacancies and fruit picking.

Maudi

Seems you are just making excuses, not many qualifications needed for work in supermarket or a coffee shop, house/office cleaner. If you want to work there are jobs to be had.

I would have thought supermarket jobs need people to be honest and have customer service skills. Do you think they'd employ people who might have a criminal record or have certain mental health conditions?

In any case, you're missing the point of the thread.

No excuse for not having a job. Some just want to remain on benefits have another child when one reaches school age.

Maudi

If you have been on benefits for say 3 months (I'm being generous here) and have not found a job or have been unwilling to take a job (more likely in my opinion) you should be allocated a job whether you like it or not or your benefits will be stopped. If only I were in charge of the country I'd soon have it sorted.

God help us all, if that were ever to happen!

So all the people who are unemployed are criminals or mentally retarded, who knew, any statistics to back this up?

The repetition of standard Daily Mail tropes. How many? Are they where the labour is? I always thought the Conservatives were the nasty party. It seems the far right is even more thoughtless. I do wonder if they have bothered to look at the labour market and find what the problems actually are.

Germanshepherdsmum

There are a good many unskilled vacancies Daisy.

I live in an area with very low levels of unemployment, but high levels of vacancy for low paid work. The issue is that people can't afford to live here and there's almost no public transport, so people have to be able to afford a car to get to work. There are other areas in the same situation.

DaisyAnne

The repetition of standard Daily Mail tropes. How many? Are they where the labour is? I always thought the Conservatives were the nasty party. It seems the far right is even more thoughtless. I do wonder if they have bothered to look at the labour market and find what the problems actually are.

Nah! Don't be silly! They never read beyond headlines.

Maudi

So all the people who are unemployed are criminals or mentally retarded, who knew, any statistics to back this up?

I didn't write "mentally retarded". I thought it was Monday today, not WUMday.

17:31growstuff

Obviously you and Labour/Libs are happy for people to remain for ever on benefits. That's why normal hard working tax paying people will never vote Labour in, you want the hard grafting workers to pay for your benefits.

Oldnproud

Maudi

Plenty of jobs look at the airports staff needed to load baggage on to the planes, nothing to do with Eastern Europeans and fruit picking. Plenty of jobs in supermarkets etc.

I could be wrong, but I would hazard a guess that most people in receipt of income and/ or savings-related benefits (the groups most likely to be targeted by the new powers) either already have a job, or are retired and getting pension credit.

The assumption that anyone getting benefits must be a lazy, work-shy scrounger is just so lazy and ignorant.

No, I doubt if you are wrong. UC for the unemployed is so low it's hardly worth chasing up. The people who will be targeted are those who might be "hiding" savings or claiming disabilities. There's a thread running on another part of this site about somebody claiming benefits to which she's not entitled.

I knew someone who had motor neurone disease. By the time he’d (with the help of family and friends, so many forms etc etc to fill in and he wasn’t very computer savvy) managed to claim benefits he was dead. Not everyone on benefits is a scrounger.