Speaking the truth about brexit

Yes I hated the money that Brussels spent on pointless issues such as the shape of bananas, etc but I voted to remain as the EU brought in good employment laws. I still don't trust the government to try to turn the clock back. I expected problems but not as big as this - the issues have been made worse due to Covid.
The vote should have included children from the age of 16 as it was their future.

Milliedog

I voted for Brexit, believing that we would take a 10 year economic hit. I firmly believe that things will settle down. But if we hadn't left the EU then the issue of sovereignty would not have changed. Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention. It's a huge, unwieldy and extraordinarily expensive organisation.

One of the most inexpensive civil services in the western world in fact.

volver

NemosMum

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

I'd never heard of Spiked before. It has the word "woke" nine times on its landing page and says gun control in the US would be racist. The author JJ Charlesworth on his Twitter says that the young should step forward and get Covid so that they can help the older folks later. I don't think he's a person to be seriously listened to.

The Gormley article is full of laughable misinterpretations.

Don't suppose I'll be looking at Spiked again.

Spiked is a magazine of the far right. Funded for a while by the libertarian, far right Koch brothers. supporters of Trump.

Not a source I would trust..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

Zoe65: Madashell,as you seem to think so little of your own country ,why don’t you go and live in your pre cious eu!

Pathetic comment. Madashell's livelihood has been seriously damaged by Brexit but the best you can do is to suggest she should move. You should be ashamed of yourself.

NemosMum

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

I'd never heard of Spiked before. It has the word "woke" nine times on its landing page and says gun control in the US would be racist. The author JJ Charlesworth on his Twitter says that the young should step forward and get Covid so that they can help the older folks later. I don't think he's a person to be seriously listened to.

The Gormley article is full of laughable misinterpretations.

Don't suppose I'll be looking at Spiked again.

I know a lot of people that didn’t vote, and mainly young people, and all their friends, they didn’t vote as they didn’t ever think leave EU would win. I really feel with 52% I believe it was? We should of had a second vote … thoughts?

Dinahmo

The main reason Brexit was rushed through was the EU law being brought in January 2020 to address tax avoidance and money laundering.

Yes, I believe this is true.

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

Returning back to Sir Antony Gormley, Brexit has had a detrimental impact on the Creative industries.

I live near the border in N.ireland and I'm very upset that relations between UK and Republic of Ireland are at an all time low thanks to Brexit. Only one political party here, DUP wanted Brexit and supported Boris Johnson's campaign but they are now complaining loudly, and refusing to go into government, because of the protocol which Boris Johnson agreed to. The Good Friday Agreement is far to important so must be protected. I don't think most people who voted for Brexit were thinking about all of the UK and certainly not about N.ireland, the only part of UK with a land border with another country.

Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention.

We were never governed by Brussels.
We voted in our own MEPs who were part of the policy and decision making process.
We made the vast majority of our own laws and were involved and in agreement with the laws that came from the EU.

fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/

I voted for Brexit, believing that we would take a 10 year economic hit. I firmly believe that things will settle down. But if we hadn't left the EU then the issue of sovereignty would not have changed. Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention. It's a huge, unwieldy and extraordinarily expensive organisation.

The impact of Brexit on UK financial markets:-

Amsterdam has replaced London as Europe’s biggest financial trading centre.

Over 440 banking and finance organisations have left the UK and relocated to the EU

Approximately 10% of UK bank assets (totalling over £900 billion) have moved, or are in the process of moving, to the EU

7,400 financial services jobs have moved, leading to concern that new jobs may be created in the EU rather than the UK in the future

www.ideagen.com/thought-leadership/blog/the-uk-economy-after-brexit-what-s-next-for-financial-services

Zoe65

Gilly cats ,how I agree.i too am sick of the extreme left views on these gn threads .This is not the majority view in this country or we woukd have a corbanist government .
This remainder attitude needs to stop.You can’t blame everything on brexit when there is a war with ukraine plus the after results of covid.to contend with .
The opening quote is from the guardian,a left wing newspaper which really says it all .

Not all of those who voted remain are left wing and not all leave voters are right wing.

I can't recall any evidence of extreme left wing views on GN.

Even when the majority view is Conservative (which it wasn't at the election and it isn't now) other views are still valid, informative and worth hearing.

Jeremy's name is Corbyn.

We can't blame everything on Brexit, but when our country's economy is doing worse than everyone in the G20 (except Russia) you have to ask why are all the other countries who didn't choose to leave the EU coping better with the effects of the war in Ukraine and Covid than we are. It isn't Covid. It isn't the terrible war. It is Brexit!!

www.investmentmonitor.ai/analysis/two-years-brexit-uk-eu

MaizieD
Could the removal of the oligarchs’ access to their I’ll-gotten gains could have something to do with this?

What a Complete and utter disaster Brexit is we will see poverty like we have never seen before ,in the next few years ,just like it was after the war , I agree Brussels needed to reform however in my view we’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water , we have no manufacturing to speak of ,
I was so sad the younger generation didn’t get out of bed to vote .
Why oh why did it have to be a 50 50 vote why not a 60 40 ,
We were told lies lies and more lies ,
England as we knew it has gone ,

Zoe65

Madashell,as you seem to think so little of your own country ,why don’t you go and live in your pre cious eu !

If you hated being in the EU so much, Zoe65, why didn't you go and live somewhere else?

What a ludicrous thing to say...

Madashell was just being realistic.

If we left *

Whitewatermark
Extend our membership so either pay the eu a load more millions or extend so starmer and co could dilute our leaving .
Boris did the right thing to get out,we’d already been delayed nearly 5 years .

EXACTLY Madashell - the whole of the UK voted without being told the facts, many with a patriotic fever and no understanding of the ramifications- and Boris’s bus advertising the ‘massive monetary savings’ we would make if we leftover , with hardly anyone telling the truth !!!

David Davis, then a Brexit negotiator, said there would be no downsides to Brexit, only considerable upsides. The excellent Yorkshirebylines.co.uk has been compiling the downsides ever since - currently standing at more than 600. You can visit the site and dip in at your leisure. Look for the David Downside Dossier!

Madashell,as you seem to think so little of your own country ,why don’t you go and live in your pre cious eu !

I am a small antiquarian and general bookseller…Brexit has been a disaster for selling or buying anything in Europe. ..as I knew it would be.
Currently it’s not only grappling with masses of new red tape, but taxes and customs duties levied on your EU customers who dare to buy from the UK !
France and Germany have now brought in packaging requirements so that anyone sending there has to register individually with re-cycling firms in the relevant countries and pay an annual fee to them too, from July 1st. In time all individual EU countries will likely do the same. I have already had to block sales from Germany and France due to all this.
I have been a book seller for over 42 years and Brexit is killing all small traders!
That is MY personal experience and point of view… as for the restrictions on travel, etc,etc, etc… !!!! ####

Gilly cats ,how I agree.i too am sick of the extreme left views on these gn threads .This is not the majority view in this country or we woukd have a corbanist government .
This remainder attitude needs to stop.You can’t blame everything on brexit when there is a war with ukraine plus the after results of covid.to contend with .
The opening quote is from the guardian,a left wing newspaper which really says it all .