Working class? Don't think that Oxbridge is for you.

Interestingly, both the golf and handbags/accessories degrees are supported by the relevant professional bodies, which would imply that they need people trained to a high standard. I would have thought Birbalsingh would approve of these kind of courses.

Joseanne

Talking design Callistemon, did you know there's a BA (Hons) degree in handbags. Bother, that's one that passed me by. I could have made a fortune! ? I'd encourage your DGD.

Handbag heaven

Callistemon21

^I know you'll think I'm making this up but I've been knitting since I was four and designing garments since I was a teenager. Its not rocket science^

Just think - you could be rich and famous!! ?

A neighbour's DD did design at university and is a knitwear designer.

and designing garments since I was a teenager. Its not rocket science.
DGD seems to have an interest in designing clothes. Should we discourage her?
Norman Hartnell, Yves St Laurent, Mary Quant came to mind .....

While physics, now...
DN studied astrophysics

www.facebook.com/knittheuniverse/

???
I didn't know!

But every woman, and some men, need a handbag!!

DGD has a fascination with Paris as well! Of course, the home of haute couture too. I must have a chat with her.

You don’t have to go on Twitter and read what you don’t want to, it seems as if if people who don’t think as you do are all wrong. Some of these degrees are ridiculous, jobs for someone teaching it. If people want to get on they will. There seems a lot of snobbery that if you are not bright and academic you’re a waste of space. I think University not right for everyone, better get a job and work your way up and no debt.

Talking design Callistemon, did you know there's a BA (Hons) degree in handbags. Bother, that's one that passed me by. I could have made a fortune! ? I'd encourage your DGD.

Germanshepherdsmum

I hope you’re joking there …

It could lead to a very satisfying and lucrative career which is very useful to so many people.

I know you'll think I'm making this up but I've been knitting since I was four and designing garments since I was a teenager. Its not rocket science

Just think - you could be rich and famous!! ?

A neighbour's DD did design at university and is a knitwear designer.

and designing garments since I was a teenager. Its not rocket science.
DGD seems to have an interest in designing clothes. Should we discourage her?
Norman Hartnell, Yves St Laurent, Mary Quant came to mind .....

While physics, now...
DN studied astrophysics

Germanshepherdsmum

I hope you’re joking there …

I'm not. ??

Germanshepherdsmum

Your husband's experience and the 'golf degree'. I expect someone will say it's very good to study for a 'golf degree' ... if they haven't already. And Calli has added the degree which enables you to teach surfing. Yes, I am obviously a 'degree snob'. As regards both the subject and the institution.
How many graduates do we hear bemoaning the fact that they are burdened with debt and can't get jobs?

None of mine have taken a surfing degree!

But I can't knock it as he has surfed around the world, won competitions, is providing a service now with his own company and there is a demand. ?‍♂️

We have a niche in society - the secret is to find it. ?

I hope you’re joking there …

I guess I'm a degree snob too GSM. There is undoubtedly a need for people to know the things they teach on a golf or surfing degree, but I am not convinced that they are to a degree level of knowledge.

As for a degree in knitting. Whatever you say DaisyAnne, whatever you think, the rigour and intellectual quality of a degree in knitting is not the same as the rigour and intellectual quality of a degree in Physics. Or Economics. Or French.

I know you'll think I'm making this up but I've been knitting since I was four and designing garments since I was a teenager. Its not rocket science. While physics, now...

volver

DaisyAnne

Actually, in this case, it's just plain snobbery.

Aye maybe it is.

I think my degree that included quantum mechanics and Maxwell's equations was slightly more intellectually demanding that one that has modules in retail and event planning.

C'est la vie.

I bet it seemed like it when you did it. Just think though, you could do a GCSE, an A level and a degree in knitting and they would all be equal in rigour to every other GCSE, A level and degree. Schools, colleges and universities would only put them on if there was a call for them though.

Err ... I looked it up and you can do a Masters in Knitting. Mmm, there's still time ...

Your husband's experience and the 'golf degree'. I expect someone will say it's very good to study for a 'golf degree' ... if they haven't already. And Calli has added the degree which enables you to teach surfing. Yes, I am obviously a 'degree snob'. As regards both the subject and the institution.
How many graduates do we hear bemoaning the fact that they are burdened with debt and can't get jobs?

Germanshepherdsmum

Good grief volver.

what?

DaisyAnne

Actually, in this case, it's just plain snobbery.

Aye maybe it is.

I think my degree that included quantum mechanics and Maxwell's equations was slightly more intellectually demanding that one that has modules in retail and event planning.

C'est la vie.

Callistemon21

Friend's son did a degree in Marine Sports Science with the emphasis on Surf Science.
He's worked and taught surfing all round the world and now has his own business. Happy, fulfilled and well-paid too!

Best of both worlds, good for him.

Friend's son did a degree in Marine Sports Science with the emphasis on Surf Science.
He's worked and taught surfing all round the world and now has his own business. Happy, fulfilled and well-paid too!

Actually, in this case, it's just plain snobbery.

growstuff

Is this the one?

www.uhi.ac.uk/en/courses/ba-hons-professional-golf/

It doesn't matter which one it is. All degrees work to the same framework. The relevant body ensures that the criteria are fulfilled.

It's just inverted snobbery that says you can't study one subject to the same level as another.

Good grief volver.

M0nica

What an appalling slur to are placing on Ms Burbalsingh's character. While I accept that there may be many identical posts supporting her on her twitter feed. Is there one scintilla of evidence to suggest that she is writing them.

You could be laying yourselves open to being sued for libel, by making such accusations without a shred of evidence other than your prejudices.

Unfortunately, she's blocked me, so I can't read what's been written.

growstuff

Is this the one?

www.uhi.ac.uk/en/courses/ba-hons-professional-golf/

Yes.

Two things.

I used to be an assessor for the quality of degrees at a local university. I know what I'm talking about.

Also, DH left University lecturing as a career because the science subject he lectured in was being reduced in complexity and level of knowledge taught, to match all the other degrees on offer. He was having to do remedial courses for first years to teach them things we had learnt in Highers.

Is this the one?

www.uhi.ac.uk/en/courses/ba-hons-professional-golf/