Oh God spare me the lying Prime Minister

Luckygirl3

It is all weepworthy - and nothing to be done as far as I can see.

I'm banking on Mystic Jon Tonge who predicts he'll be out in six months.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/11/labour-certain-to-win-wakefield-jon-tonge-mystic-meg-politics-predictions

Or I may go and ask a bus stop.

"Why oh why does he continue to lie", no, why oh why do people continue to vote for him.

Whenever the Bollington Club is mentioned I am furious that those louts kept getting away with their criminal behaviour. Had a local gang of teenagers behaved in such a way the police would have rounded them up, next stop borstal which would have affected the rest of their lives but at least two of that privileged mob got to the very top on the tree.

It is all weepworthy - and nothing to be done as far as I can see.

Gosh, saw that headline and thought for a moment we were back in the Blair days ...

Yes, I have read it fluke. Jonathan Lis has already published several articles in the Byline Times seeking to analyse what is going on with Johnson. This is probably the best imo published in August 2020 so before the Owen Patterson scandal broke, before Partygate:

bylinetimes.com/2020/08/28/boris-johnson-the-anti-prime-minister/

These, to me, are key paragraphs:

“For Johnson, Brexit is less important than an exam. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t matter. He will blame someone else and it was fun to try.

And so the key to this game is failure. Johnson does not set out to fail per se. Rather, failure is just another route to winning. He fails to prove the failure won’t hurt him. He sabotages things because he can.

This thinking sounds perverse because it is. It must be understood within the framework, not of governing, but of a game with one necessary victor. Success, stability and predictability are boring. Why not see how far you can push the people who support you? If you can still win with the most danger, the most excitement, inflicting the most damage, why not try?”

Unless people understand the nature of the narcissistic psychopath they will never understand what drives his behaviour. Lis has nailed it in this and several other articles.

Anyone read this letter from a family member yet? I thought it gave an insight into him by someone who's known him all his life. Not best pleased is an understatement!

Interesting.

bylinetimes.com/2022/06/10/dear-boris-your-nihilism-betrays-your-grandfathers-legacy-hed-be-appalled/

RichmondPark

Did I get it wrong or did the Led by Donkeys say that he has fathered 5 children with mistresses whilst married?

I think he has lost count tbh. I assume that he contributing financially to all his offspring? No wonder he is always moaning about not being able to manage on his £157k a year, half of that must go out as fathers contribution.

Did I get it wrong or did the Led by Donkeys say that he has fathered 5 children with mistresses whilst married?

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Yes, Dinahmo, nothing new - but when seen together it's quite a lot.
We tend to put things out of mind and this reminds us of some of the things he's done/said.

I've just listened to the Led By Donkeys tweet. There was nothing I didn't know in it (apart from the number of women who had affairs with and became pregnant by him)

I'm just surprised at the numbers of people who weren't aware of these facts and shocked at those people who still maintain that he is the best bet for the country at present.

Germanshepherdsmum

Conservative voter who has had her say and hasn’t stopped posting. We don’t all support BJ and every policy.

I know GSM..that’s my point!

BJ Is suffering from the following:-
- some sections of the media and his own party have realised he is a liability.
- being a serial and unrepentant liar
- he is less popular and liked than he was/would like to be.
- 41% of MPs from both the remain and leave camp want him gone
- the worst performance of any G20 country (except Russia) post Covid

According to all polls the majority of people would now like someone else in charge.

All politicians lie which is why they are, in poll after poll, pretty much neck and neck with estate agents on the trust front. Our present PM was elected by people who knew his reputation as a populist, good with words. As Mayor of London he won by declaring, ‘No more high rises’ and proceeded to clutter the skyline.

BJ Is suffering from the following:-
- a concerted media and own party cabal to oust him.
- an unremitting focus on himself which lets off everyone else who is ‘lying’. And, let’s face it, that’s everyone else.
-a desire to be popular and liked.
-a very hostile civil service which is holing every policy in the water.
- Remainer bad blood.
-The global fallout from Covid

Would anyone want the Opposition in charge? Seriously? With Putin?

I don’t even like BJ’s policies. I think they are unConservative. But an election is an on/off switch and you get what you vote for - even the bits you don’t like.

NotSpaghetti

flump

Anyone seen the latest "Led by Donkeys" video? It's only when a list of Johnson's life and lies are presented chronologically that it reinforces what an absolute b-----d he is.

twitter.com/i/status/1534059039994298368
Here it is.

Words fail...This man is even more of an a**ehole than I'd thought.

Maybe if the government bought back the scheme that paid the landlord directly instead of paying the benefit claimant and trusting them to pay the rent, a similar rent to buy mortgage scheme MIGHT work ...otherwise just more homeless sadly

The banks don’t win if they’ve lent more than the property’s worth.

Has everyone forgotten the mortgage disaster of 2008? Stupid loans (100% mortgages) given to people who couldn't really afford the property. The property market rose rapidly only to drop as rapidly when people started defaulting. As a result people on the lower end of the property market found themselves in hock for large amounts with no way to recover!
In the US it was even worse leading to massive poverty and a worldwide recession.
I suspect someone is pulling PM's chain and nudging him on a direction that will bring him down with a huge crash!
Not that I'd be sorry to see that but it is the people who end up bankrupt or detitute that worry me.
The only winners in these situations are the banks, the property landlords (when rents rocket) and those who already have too much (or at least enough). NEVER does the poor person win in scams like these!!

Conservative voter who has had her say and hasn’t stopped posting. We don’t all support BJ and every policy.

Tinydancer

I've read all 3 pages of comments on this thread so far. Not one is agreeing with Johnson. It is a "dead cat or red meat" as he likes to call it to distract from his failure as a PM.
Gransnet I would say at a guess has older commenters. Traditionally Tory voters are older people. Not looking good for him is it?

I have noticed the diehard Tory/Johnson supporters on GN have almost stopped commenting (possibly by arrangement??) as they got annoyed at “Boris bashing” threads and decided we were all loony lefties….which is definitely not the case. Many traditional conservative voters are now disillusioned by Johnson et al.
Well that Lucca’s analysis of the political leanings of GN!!

Jaxie, that horror is repeated in any ‘desirable’ area. In some of our less desirable areas, former council homes are now owned by private landlords. I’ve known people evicted from their council house because of anti social behaviour, drug dealing etc, to move back into a private rent on the same street they were evicted from.

A local councillor in my small seaside town who had bought her council house under Thatcher was bemoaning the fact that her daughter could not afford to buy one, reason being that former council houses had become so desirable because their value had increased enormously. She can’t have it both ways. For Boris to suggest housing association houses should be sold at under their market value is a cynical vote catching ploy. This man and his sycophants are an insult to democracy.

The policy of a lame duck prime minister who is oven ready for the chop.

MayBee70

Reading the generic letter from my MP again it dawned on me she uses the same tactics. Don’t answer the question but divert it to something else. I’m going to contact her again and ask her why she didn’t answer my questions.

Because its a copy and pasted script they are told to send