Priti Patel wins legal battle over Rwanda migrants plan.

In the Telegraph was it?

There was an article from an immigration official I read. He'd dealt with hundreds of asylum seekers who can't speak the language of the country they claim to be fleeing, can't name the capital or even the currency of that country. Others have impressive packages hoping to prove they are genuine but he said that was until you'd seen dozens of migrants with the same package but a different photo.

We are being taken for fools by some. We are too soft.

Migrants risking their lives (mostly men) in the busiest waters and some drown. Gang masters raking it in - a highly lucrative business. Like buying in modern day slavery. Rubber dinghy passages paid to people smugglers who use high tech sophisticated methods to run their very profitable enterprises from Europe. This cannot be allowed to continue.

Can't be bothered any more.

End of.

But these people aren’t escaping Nazis, they’re not escaping anyone. They’re already in a safe country ( France ) free from any harm.
They are economic migrants who think they’ll get a better deal here in the UK.

End of.

I saw something earlier today about a protest in London, like the one in Scotland last year that prevented the unannounced extradition of asylum seekers. I just can't find it right now.

There are good people all over.

Thank you for telling us about your story garnet25

Paddyanne, most people in England feel as you do, are ashamed of what the Johnson administration is doing and we are not like the unfeeling and cruel people who are stirred up by Farage and his like. As my late Grandfather often said "the emptiest tin makes the most noise"

For those of you here who want to send refugees to Rwanda, I'll just say this.

I wouldn't be here if my mother had not been allowed into this country as a refugee from the Nazis. Some of you would no doubt wish she had been refused entry but Britain was a kinder country then.

OK. So just because we don't have the appropriate systems in place that a modern country should be able to provide without even thinking about it, we'll take it out on the asylum seekers. And its really all about money, not about being humane. And as for pretending its for their own good?

Like I said. Pathetic.

Wish there was a like button for posts like yours Caravan Serai
So much bigotted nonsense from people you would think knew better .Asylum seekers get just over £5 a day and a roof over their heads ,those 4 star hotels are often hovels.the one in central Glasgow had bars on windows and no way of opening them for fresh air .Thankfully my part of the world isn't AS against immigration and will stand up for their rights ,maybe thats because we had many driven out by force in the clearances so have some understanding of the issues .Through the letters and books written about our anscestors .

Pritti Patel is very far from pretty, in any way. She is a callous and cruel human being, devoid of any compassion. How can any decent human being find her actions acceptable... Beats me!

Not all migrants are honest, upstanding individuals sadly. There have been stabbings and incidents where citizens have been murdered by those who wish us harm in the West. I have seen the tv news and been horrified. Some of these migrants have undiagnosed mental health issues. Processing individuals (some of whom don’t tell the truth) must be an expensive nightmare when they arrive on our shores without documents. For some reason unknown to me & many law abiding taxpayers it takes too long to sort these migrants out. And the cost of housing them in hotels is eye-watering. £5 million a DAY. Just think about that for a moment. Digest it and think where better could our government be spending that daily amount? It costs BILLIONS each year.

I say they come over from France. They are safe there, not persecuted. They ought to wait in line with everyone else to apply for residency in this country. Not queue jump by paying people traffickers or smuggle themselves in by paying some gang masters to hide them in a container lorry so they can slip out in the night to find themselves living under the radar - unsafe perhaps, coerced by unscrupulous individuals to work in nail bars and back street takeaway kebab shops paid less than the minimum wage. It’s plain wrong.

CaravanSerai ??????

I can be bothered to check.

There was a case in 2018 of a Iranian man joining a Year 11 class at a school in Ipswich. There was no question of him misbehaving. He simply wanted to study as his qualifications overseas were not being recognised here. Sometimes people do desperate things.

Sky reported on this saying there were 9800 applications for asylum in 2016, 580 of whom claimed to be children. On investigation, 61% were deemed to be over 18, That’s 354, less than 4% of the total number of asylum applications of which I can find one story of a man in school.

I undestand there is no where and no way to claim asylum before turning up on our shores, they have to get here first, and then claim from here. So no person can be illegal until after a claim is denied.
Refugees can choose where they want to go, many speak English, or have connections here. Its hard enough to begin life in a new country but made worse where you dont speak the language fluently.
Putting aside the fact that because for historic reasons the world speaks English, if we were unlucky enough to be fleeing this country, we would choose somewhere to go where they did. We take very few in comparison to other countries, who welcome them but the majority of refugees seek refuge in neighbouring, poor countries which can ill afford it.
How would those ex pats, aka immigrants, who choose to live in other countries feel if they were as vilified. These are people, like us. Just not as lucky.

Ew.

volver

GrannyGravy13

There is an article online dated today it’s Mail online, and the cases of over 18’s claiming to be under 18’s is definitely up.

So the "appropriate checks" are working then?

I didn’t read the article, just the precis

I am not happy with sending what is essentially a problem of our own making to another country.

I gave my idea of a solution upthread.

Urmstongran

No, it wasn’t one instance volver. And there’s nothing wrong with me declining to look it up for you!
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No. Other than you basing your attitude to this topic on some half remembered incident from an indeterminate number of years ago.

Sheesh, indeed.

I also recall professional forensic scientists getting involved (I read a lot of articles in newspapers). - they study bones & teeth of corpses to assess ages of those dug up or found. They said the Home Office needed to up its game. The technology is there. Seems to me the will isn’t though. Or the money for the extra processing of these migrants. I don’t know which.

Urmstongran have you actually met any refugees or asylum seekers? Or is your knowledge purely garnered from the right wing press? Firstly no one gets in or puts their children in a boat if there is an easily accessible and efficient legal route they could use. Secondly asylum seekers do not want to be a burden on the tax payer, they want to work but aren't allowed to. Thirdly the system of gaining asylum is long drawn out and unfit for purpose. So we hold people who could be working, paying taxes and contributing to our society in a sort of limbo for years with no idea when they will be cleared. Now some of those people will be criminalised and forcibly moved.
The late Tony Benn's words are so accurate
The way the government treats refugees is very instructive because it shows you how they would treat the rest of us if they thought they could get away with it.

GrannyGravy13

There is an article online dated today it’s Mail online, and the cases of over 18’s claiming to be under 18’s is definitely up.

So the "appropriate checks" are working then?

No, it wasn’t one instance volver. And there’s nothing wrong with me declining to look it up for you!
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There is an article online dated today it’s Mail online, and the cases of over 18’s claiming to be under 18’s is definitely up.

Oh, OK, you can't be bothered.

So none then.

Or one instance six years ago. Pathetic.

It was pre Brexit (I think). It was reported in the newspapers. I remember articles & photographs at the time. One an was about 23y if I recall correctly. If you can be bothered (I can’t) Google is your friend here.