Priti Patel wins legal battle over Rwanda migrants plan.

If everyone stayed away from threads they didn't agree with, social media would be pretty dull

Of course. Social media is full of people who love arguing all day, we all know that. But there’s a big difference in having a different opinion and wanted to shut threads down, just because you don’t like what’s being said.
And it’s usually left wingers who want that complete control.

GrannyGravy Do you know much about deer stalking and what needs to be done immediately after a deer is killed? Do you know about food hygiene regulations and what checks must be done on a deer carcass? Do you know about the risk of ecoli is if the kill is not clean and if gralloching is not done quicky and expertly to prevent gut contents contaminating the meat?

You might like to read this about carcass inspection.

www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/uploads/guides/159.pdf

And finally, have you read any of the reports about the spread of coronovirus in deer herds? These are not farmed animals subjected to regular surveillance and farmer/vet drug interventions to stop address infections and viruses. They are wild animals whose meat must be subject to the most rigorous checks to ensure that deadly infections do not enter the food processing and consumer chain.

Any increase in consumption must have behind it the skilled people necessary to carry out these checks. When we have a government which is no longer bothered if we are importing and buying contaminated food how can we have confidence that these checks will be done?

I think what Patel is misjudging is the fact that Britains don’t “do” fascist policies.

We fought a war and won against a regime that saw some members of the human race as not being entitled to human rights.

We haven’t forgotten that and she should be mindful of this fact.

Kandinsky

volver

The reason people aren’t happy about you posting on this thread is because you openly told people you were reporting the op ( for what exactly? agreeing with government policy? ) when that didn’t work & the thread was allowed to stand - because it’s not breaking any rules - you then say you’re keeping a list of people who agree with the op.
Why don’t you just stay away from posters / threads you clearly don’t agree with & give us a rest?
I mean, you’re always promising it but never quite manage it?

If everyone stayed away from threads they didn't agree with, social media would be pretty dull.

CaravanSerai there is absolutely nothing wrong with eating venison (or as you called it deer meat) it is very low in fat and also mostly organic as the herds live in natural conditions.

CaravanSerai

Here is the link WW2.

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1535329040474812421?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

People need to listen to this. This is a transcript of some of what this poor man said:

I wanted to stay in Syria. I never wanted to be called a refugee ... I stayed as long as I could hoping that things would change. Then Russia came with their airforce. Russia is responsible for mass destruction in Syria. Russia used weapons that nobody could even imagine. Rockets and airborne weapons. The airplanes would come over our neighbourhoods and leave them completely destroyed. Nothing is left. There were massacres. I feel happy for Ukrainians because they found someone to stand with them ...

So, I ask those people saying it is right to send refugees to Rwanda, why do we care more about a Ukranian refugee than a Syrian refugee forced to flee under the same circumstances? Both deserve our compassion and support.

There is a major difference between refugees from Syria and those from Ukraine, CaravanSerai, and of course they both deserve our compassion and support. Think skin colour...

It is quite ridiculous that we are not allowing refugees and asylum seekers to work when we are so short of workers in (just one example) the NHS, and some of them would be qualified to work there.

Exactly winterwhite e.g. poor Yemeni's trying to find a safe haven from Saudi aggression using arms that Truss illegally sold to them. What is it that right wing posters here find palatable about children dying from starvation?

Off topic but in response to LilyoftheValley's unpleasant post, I'd just like to add that we have no idea what is being brought into the country anyway now that post-Brexit we no longer check fresh food at the border.

To add to this, the leaked white paper for Johnson's new food strategy suggests the country looks to increase the consumption of deer meat. Are we not just emerging from a two year pandemic caused by a zoonotic virus? Madness.

Thank you Casdon.

Kandinsky, I don't care whether you agree with what I'm writing or not. I suppose keeping track of people then saying "if you don't like it then just p*** off" is a way of dealing with things in some parts of the population.

Kandinsky

volver

The reason people aren’t happy about you posting on this thread is because you openly told people you were reporting the op ( for what exactly? agreeing with government policy? ) when that didn’t work & the thread was allowed to stand - because it’s not breaking any rules - you then say you’re keeping a list of people who agree with the op.
Why don’t you just stay away from posters / threads you clearly don’t agree with & give us a rest?
I mean, you’re always promising it but never quite manage it?

Attempts to call out bigotry and racism are always welcomed by most of us Kandinsky.

Here's another 'alternative solution'.

If we don't want refugees we should stop supplying arms to warring countries. We do it because it is profitable, and those who vote for supporters of such should not then huff and puff about the human consequences.

volver

The reason people aren’t happy about you posting on this thread is because you openly told people you were reporting the op ( for what exactly? agreeing with government policy? ) when that didn’t work & the thread was allowed to stand - because it’s not breaking any rules - you then say you’re keeping a list of people who agree with the op.
Why don’t you just stay away from posters / threads you clearly don’t agree with & give us a rest?
I mean, you’re always promising it but never quite manage it?

I'm fed up with those who grossly magnify the scale of the 'problem' and then complain that no one offers any alternative 'solutions'.

We see every day that the country is grinding to a halt because of 'workforce' problems largely because so many EU nationals have sensibly gone home sensing they weren't welcome here. Why not see whether more Syrians, Afghans and others can tolerate us, and welcome them?

Why isn't that seen as an alternative solution?

LilyoftheValley

If they had come the civilised and proper way into the UK I would support them. They have cheated and deserve to be relocated. Having been through no terrorist and health checks we have no idea what is being brought into our country.

Which way is the civilised and proper way?

We may have no idea of who is coming in but we sure as hell know the vile mindset of the people who are here as witnessed on this thread.I always said Brexit was the biggotted and the braindead and its just been proven .

If they had come the civilised and proper way into the UK I would support them. They have cheated and deserve to be relocated. Having been through no terrorist and health checks we have no idea what is being brought into our country.

Annaram1

I wonder if Patel thought about sending migrants to South Africa? Called the Rainbow Nation, there is a large mix of people from all over the world. The migrants would blend in well with the population there. They will stand out like sore thumbs in Rwanda. I believe they would like South Africa too. I lived there for 14 years and have family there and they seem happy.

Sorry, I know I'll upset Maudi by commenting here but WTF is this about?

I wonder if Patel thought about sending migrants to South Africa? Called the Rainbow Nation, there is a large mix of people from all over the world. The migrants would blend in well with the population there. They will stand out like sore thumbs in Rwanda. I believe they would like South Africa too. I lived there for 14 years and have family there and they seem happy.

Oh I see. Two wrongs etc.

Whitewavemark2
My point being, is: the EU have been sending migrants from Libya to other African countries since 2017. I don’t recall anyone kicking up a stink then.

From the article.
Thanks to an agreement reached at the African Union - EU summit in Nov 2017 Niger has since welcomed over 2,900 migrants from Libya
These are migrants that the EU are paying Libya to keep in the most horrendous conditions. Some of these migrants are being sold at slave markets.
I’m not agreeing with Patel, I’m saying that the EU don’t come out smelling of roses in this awful problem.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/

Some interesting information here.

Punishing victims isn't right - leaving them to drown isn't that great either.

Then open proper channels and enable these people to come here and contribute to our society which is in desperate need of workers.

It is not good news that we are turning away young, fit people who want to come here and work.

I have an answer the Rwanda plan.

I've noticed when certain right leaning posters haven't got an answer or don't like a post they say 'well most people in the real world feel like me' but never provide any evidence for that.

The traffickers, linked to organised crime, are earning a fortune. They put people to sea, not caring if they drown or not. Some have.

The French have made it clear that they will not assist in stopping the traffickers, on the French side of the Channel, because they want rid of the migrants.

They need to be stopped before there are more drownings - and no one seems to have any idea how to do this.?

Punishing victims isn't right - leaving them to drown isn't that great either.

10:18volver

I thought you weren't going to engage in the echo chamber.