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UK's largest GP chain replaces some doctors with less qualified staff.

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growstuff Mon 13-Jun-22 10:19:46

They are dealing with the whole range of conditions which a GP does.

growstuff Mon 13-Jun-22 10:19:18

Two years after a science degree, according to the article.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Jun-22 10:18:12

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

We have Nurse Practitioners in our GP surgery and have had for many years. They see all the minor ailments (asthma, chest infections, ears, eyes, cuts, bruises etc) Ifmthey think you need to be seen by a Doctor they will call one in from the next room.

Nurse Practitioners aren't the same as Physician Associates. Nurse Practitioners have had three years of nurse training before doing additional qualifications and are only qualified to deal with certain groups of patients.

What and how much training do Physician Associates have?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Jun-22 10:16:54

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

We have Nurse Practitioners in our GP surgery and have had for many years. They see all the minor ailments (asthma, chest infections, ears, eyes, cuts, bruises etc) Ifmthey think you need to be seen by a Doctor they will call one in from the next room.

Is your practice run by a private company?

It is owned and run by the GP’s themselves.

All GP services are technically private They have agreements with the NHS, have done since it’s inception.

growstuff Mon 13-Jun-22 10:16:41

GrannyGravy13

We have Nurse Practitioners in our GP surgery and have had for many years. They see all the minor ailments (asthma, chest infections, ears, eyes, cuts, bruises etc) Ifmthey think you need to be seen by a Doctor they will call one in from the next room.

Nurse Practitioners aren't the same as Physician Associates. Nurse Practitioners have had three years of nurse training before doing additional qualifications and are only qualified to deal with certain groups of patients.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Jun-22 10:14:01

GrannyGravy13

We have Nurse Practitioners in our GP surgery and have had for many years. They see all the minor ailments (asthma, chest infections, ears, eyes, cuts, bruises etc) Ifmthey think you need to be seen by a Doctor they will call one in from the next room.

Is your practice run by a private company?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Jun-22 10:12:52

We have Nurse Practitioners in our GP surgery and have had for many years. They see all the minor ailments (asthma, chest infections, ears, eyes, cuts, bruises etc) Ifmthey think you need to be seen by a Doctor they will call one in from the next room.

Callistemon21 Mon 13-Jun-22 10:08:19

It is happening everywhere, DiamondLily.

The NHS Hospital Consultant I see (or don't see!) has changed working practices so that pharmacists now deal with many of his patients by telephone.
It is not at all satisfactory.

DiamondLily Mon 13-Jun-22 10:04:49

"The UK's biggest chain of GP practices lets less qualified staff see patients without adequate supervision, an undercover BBC Panorama investigation has found.

Operose Health is putting patients at risk by prioritising profit, says a senior GP.

The company, with almost 600,000 NHS patients, is owned by US healthcare giant Centene Corporation.

Operose says it's not short-staffed and operates in patients' best interests.

BBC Panorama sent undercover reporter Jacqui Wakefield to work as a receptionist at one of the UK company's 51 London surgeries. The BBC is not naming the practice or the staff who work there.

A GP working at the practice said they were short of eight doctors. The practice manager said they hired less qualified medical staff called physician associates (PAs), because they were "cheaper" than GPs.

Physician associates were first introduced by the NHS in 2003, so that doctors could deal with more complex patient needs.

Their introduction was based on a US model and has been adopted in various other countries.

PAs are healthcare professionals who have completed two years of post-graduate studies on top of a science degree, as opposed to 10 years education and training for GPs.

They support GPs in the diagnosis and management of patients, but should have oversight from a doctor.'"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61759643