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What are your views on unions & strikes?

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Kandinsky Thu 16-Jun-22 19:45:36

National rail strike next week.

They have my full support. ?

DiamondLily Mon 20-Jun-22 10:23:56

The government are happy, to sit back, blame Labour, and let the whole thing carry on. They have refused, again, to intervene.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rail-strikes-unions-grant-shapps-tuc-b2104542.html

MaizieD Mon 20-Jun-22 10:22:11

Nothing like spoiling a pithy post with bad formatting and typos shock

Try again

Have workers been asked to strike or TOLD?

I rather think that they have chosen to strike, TwiceAsNice

TwiceAsNice Mon 20-Jun-22 10:20:49

So They are not responsible for other people I didn’t say that either. They are responsible for being greedy and militant enough to ask for a 7% raise at a time when most workers have no chance of a fraction of that or nothing at all, and holding the country to ransom at the same time. It’s greedy and irresponsible and they should be ashamed

MaizieD Mon 20-Jun-22 10:19:38

^ Have workers been asked to strike or TOLD?^

I rather thing that they have chosen to strike, TwiceAsNice

Glorianny Mon 20-Jun-22 10:19:37

TwiceAsNice

Why do they think their case is more deserving of anyone else? Unions were needed more when there was nothing to keep workers safe . We have moved on a lot from then. This is an arrogant push which disrupts thousands including my daughter whose trains to London were just cancellation after cancellation on a day they weren’t even SUPPOSED to be striking ! Do they think everyone else has had a rise and not them? It’s not happened . Have workers been asked to strike or TOLD?

A strike is only legal now if there has been a ballot of the members at least 50% of the members must take part in any ballot. So no-one is being told.
There is very little now to maintain safety on the railways. Guards which some consider essential to safety have been cut despite protests. The railways are run to make the maximum profits for shareholders, they are not concerned with staff or passengers.

ajswan Mon 20-Jun-22 10:17:48

RichmondPark

They have my full support and always have.

The greedy striking rail strikers should hang their heads in shame. It should be made illegal to bring the country to a halt. It’s okay for all you retired people that this strike will not affect your life one little bit. But these greedy strikers will cause misery to thousands of people and it should not be allowed. They are already on very high pay. I don’t know how they can face people whose working day and holidays etc has been ruined. They are lucky to have a job. Again I say these strikes should be made illegal.

volver Mon 20-Jun-22 10:11:58

Why do they think their case is more deserving of anyone else?

I don't think anybody has said that's what they think. Them going on strike doesn't mean that other people can't. They are not responsible for the situation that others are in. That's the government.

TwiceAsNice Mon 20-Jun-22 10:07:14

Why do they think their case is more deserving of anyone else? Unions were needed more when there was nothing to keep workers safe . We have moved on a lot from then. This is an arrogant push which disrupts thousands including my daughter whose trains to London were just cancellation after cancellation on a day they weren’t even SUPPOSED to be striking ! Do they think everyone else has had a rise and not them? It’s not happened . Have workers been asked to strike or TOLD?

maddyone Mon 20-Jun-22 10:06:01

I think it takes courage to defend a minority opinion though.

I think you’re right with this comment Maizie. Sadly I think some posters are rather intimidated when they hold a minority opinion which is a shame as more varied opinions makes the debate more interesting.

maddyone Mon 20-Jun-22 10:03:06

MayBee70

I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m a complete technophobe and don’t know if I’ll ever be able to use a train again if there are no ticket offices.

You’ll be fine booking online Maybe as it’s no different to doing anything else online. I downloaded the app Trainline and use that. However you must have a smartphone so you can show your ticket. At the moment you can still collect your ticket at the station even if you book online, but eventually you’ll need a smartphone. I think most of us have got one, but I know some Gransnetters haven’t.

MaizieD Mon 20-Jun-22 09:42:10

jennyvg

Because Volver on this site you are not entitled to an opinion unless you agree with the majority

You're absolutely entitled to an opinion, but other posters might think it's not a good one and will argue against it. They're not trying to shut you down, just disagreeing with you.

I think it takes courage to defend a minority opinion, though.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 20-Jun-22 09:33:38

The removal of one's labour is a human right which we should guard with all of our might- whatever our feelings about individual cases. The Tolpuddle Martyrs paid dearly for this a very long time ago, and we should be proud and respectful of all that their stand has gained for everyone over the years.

MayBee70 Mon 20-Jun-22 09:11:45

I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m a complete technophobe and don’t know if I’ll ever be able to use a train again if there are no ticket offices.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-22 09:06:37

I don’t understand why those working on railways have to use food banks.

Riverwalk Mon 20-Jun-22 08:55:13

it is just an excuse to bring down the Conservative government

Unfortunately, it will have the opposite effect - strikes tend to reflect badly on Labour.

The government is standing back and letting the strike happen as though it were a private company trade dispute, and laughing up their sleeve, despite the many billions of taxpayers subsidies.

Marydoll Mon 20-Jun-22 08:51:46

jennyvg

Because Volver on this site you are not entitled to an opinion unless you agree with the majority

What a lot of nonsense!

volver Mon 20-Jun-22 08:49:56

That's absolutely wrong. Have you read this thread at all? People on both sides of the debate. None of them telling us how their free speech is limited.

jennyvg Mon 20-Jun-22 08:46:20

Because Volver on this site you are not entitled to an opinion unless you agree with the majority

volver Mon 20-Jun-22 08:37:38

Why do people feel it necessary to write it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it?

Yes you are, and others are entitled to disagree with it. Especially on a discussion forum.

jennyvg Mon 20-Jun-22 08:31:26

I absolutely disagree with the rail strike, in my opinion, (and I am entitled to it), it is just an excuse to bring down the Conservative government, I agree people need trade unions, I was a member of one myself for a number of years, but feel that the leaders just try to push their own opinions forward and care not a jot for the members.

sodapop Mon 20-Jun-22 08:31:26

I agree with that as well Nannapat1

Nannapat1 Mon 20-Jun-22 08:25:43

I agree with Riverwalk. I do in general support unions, understand what they have achieved in the past and the support they continue to give their members. However, nationwide strikes adversely affecting not the ones they are in conflict with, but the public at large many of whom are in minimum wage jobs, I can't support.

Shinamae Mon 20-Jun-22 07:36:07

This…

Shinamae Mon 20-Jun-22 07:35:36

Here we go….?‍♀️

nadateturbe Sun 19-Jun-22 22:42:45

It's great to see all these comments in support of unions.