Next Tory leader

Welshwife

I am not a Tory supporter and never have been but there has to be decent Tories who do not search for the limelight and we have seen many previously but unfortunately those with voting power do not always recognise these people Dominic Grieve comes to mind as does Anna Soubry - Rory Stewart is another. We would be in a very different place now had Rory Stewart become leader.

Rory Stewart would have to get a constituency first he resigned from Penrith and the Boarders after the last leadership vote.

Allsorts

Of course there are decent Tories, just as you can’t judge Labour by Blair who told a bigger lie than him or by supporters of Corbyn, the least said about him the better. You go by the general principles and aims of the party, but I honestly can’t think of anyone to lead. The person who really gets on my wick is Kier Starmer, his constant whinging about small things and ignorance of the bigger picture, I think he only knows and recites the same few sentences, he really is so boring.

I’m struggling to see the relevance of your post Allsorts, unless you think Keir Starmer is going to switch parties and be the next Tory leader?

Of course there are decent Tories, just as you can’t judge Labour by Blair who told a bigger lie than him or by supporters of Corbyn, the least said about him the better. You go by the general principles and aims of the party, but I honestly can’t think of anyone to lead. The person who really gets on my wick is Kier Starmer, his constant whinging about small things and ignorance of the bigger picture, I think he only knows and recites the same few sentences, he really is so boring.

Johnson will be hanging on so that he can continue to use Chequers. He is planning to hold his postponed wedding party there and invitations have already gone out. I wonder how many of his colleagues were invited and how many will be accepting?

I am not a Tory supporter and never have been but there has to be decent Tories who do not search for the limelight and we have seen many previously but unfortunately those with voting power do not always recognise these people Dominic Grieve comes to mind as does Anna Soubry - Rory Stewart is another. We would be in a very different place now had Rory Stewart become leader.

Interestingly there are some posters whose names I haven't seen on the political threads before and some of them are still favouring Johnson.

I heard Rory Stewart today - he always seems to speak truthfully. It would be good if he could be selected to stand at the next by-election, whenever that may be. He would make a good PM.

As regards the current lot - none of them. Many of us were aware of Johnson's flawed character and the lies he told, the jobs he was sacked from etc etc. If we knew then Tory MPS must have known. Certainly those on the front bench.

I heard Javid's resignation speech and thought it impressive. However, I'd like to know why he and the other ministers didn't take Johnson to task months ago. The answer - they didn't want to risk losing their jobs.

So he is going at last!!! Watch this space eh?? Dig more holes you Tory wasters!
What a bunch to lead our nation! I despair I really do !!

@varian
I do not know if these replies are sarcastic or there are many people who are seeing the Conservatives differently from me.
I do not believe anyone in that self serving party give a dam about anyone but themselves.

Grandmabatty

Rees Mogg has integrity? The devout Catholic who voted against abortion but owns a company which produces abortion pills? That Mogg? The condescending sneering pencil who lies almost as much as Johnson? Okay then. ?

This ^ ^ ^ ?

Could be an early election and if labour win then it would be a coalition with the SNP - imagine Keir Starmer and Ian Blackford, it would be like Tweedle De and Tweedle Dum.

Hardly matters. Not one of them could organise a p... up in a brewery. Shame we have to put up with them until a General Election sees the back of them.

I found this on a PTA group this morning. I’m in the midst of organising our school fair. I’m free after Friday. ?

I should never read these threads The remarks about Nadine Dorries are hateful. I dislike many female MPs but eould never describe thrm in yhe terms used here. There are people on the left who love to hate anyone who
Disagrees with their politics. But as you are not Conservative members you will not have a say. I do not care how the Labour party chooses their PM but as Jeremy Corbin was chosen nothing more needs to be said. There is no doubt that Boris Johnson has not delivered but then if Sir Keir resigns once the Durham police fine him he will resign. Then Labour will choose a new leader. I will not be throwing dirt about candidates intellect.
It depends who the MSM wants.

I think that there are a few decent back benchers who could be promoted. I was watching the Standards committee the other day - Chris Bryant is great when questioning but he is Labour. Tobias Elwood is also very good and he is a Conservative MP who was a serving soldier I believe. He was persistent when questioning Johnson who of course was trying his usual bluster. It was reported that his advisor gave him a note telling him to stop talking.
The Tories will be looking for someone who they think will have a decent chance of leading them to a win in the next general election. That will exclude a number of possible candidates - particularly Braverman, Patel. Javid etc.

Not Rishi Sunak, please, like Raab he doesn’t even believe there are millions of people in this country who earn less than
£25,000. Yet he still taxed them.
Do any of the Cabinet know there are low paid amongst the
hoi polloi?

Peaseblossom

At the risk of getting my head blown off and being called names, I would hate us to have a Muslim prime minister. It’s all wrong. Islam is totally alien to the British people’s culture. I also fear that immigration would increase even more. There are many Muslim mayors in the UK due to the large population of immigrants in certain areas, who would all vote them into power, including the mayor of London. Where I was born and grew up in East London there is actually a Sharia Court and many others throughout the UK. It’s all very wrong.

As far as I can see Sajid Javid isn't a practising Muslim, just a family background, so you need have no fear of Sharia Law.

Rather like Johnson - despite Catholic weddings and Christenings he's not really a practising Christian is he.

Nannashirlz

How about what’s the point if ppl vote someone should it not be up to the people ppl to vote them out not a Mp. If you don’t like your job find a new job not do a witch-hunt

Seriously?

That's not how it works.

Johnson is a Prime Minister, not a President.

Sunak can't have it as he was fined under partygate, so we already know he has broken the law - that should preclude him standing.

I dread to think who the next PM will be. Don't think either Patel or Rees Mogg will be a popular choice. I find Rees Mogg very supercilious and Patel always looks smug even when she's talking about negative matters. It's interesting, reading these posts and speaking to people, there doesn't seem to be one bright shining light amongst the candidates.

Totally agree. Brexit is a big mistake and I am sorry I voted for it.

Jacob Rees Mogg? You are joking right? Stuck up, sucking up to Boris. Little Lord Fauntetoy) (not sure of spelling) or Lord Snooty snob. Don't think so. Steve Baker - "another Boris 'yes man'. None of the present or past Cabinet members deserves that office. Leader must be chosen from outside the cabinet.

If anything could cheer me at the moment it's that so many of us mature women can clearly see what a load of immoral, bullying, lying, incompetent, self-serving w*****s we've had, as a so-called government. As for Rees Mogg, he wanted Brexit to avoid the EU tax proposals which would have made him pay tax on his offshore holdings. Unfair, unkind, cynical b******s the lot of 'em!

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Nannashirlz

How about what’s the point if ppl vote someone should it not be up to the people ppl to vote them out not a Mp. If you don’t like your job find a new job not do a witch-hunt

A PM is not elected by the people. A party leader is chosen by his or her party, who also have the power to deselect and replace that leader.

We ordinary people only get to elect our local MP, so unless you happen to live in the constituency that Johnson represents, his name will never even have appeared on your ballot paper and even then, you would only have the option of selecting him as your representative, not as PM.

Johnson is still an MP, so even when he is no longer in the role of PM, his constituents will still be represented by the person they voted for in the last election.

LovelyLady - l like your idea