Next Tory leader

I don’t agree that Boris has no sort of future, money wise.

Perhaps not straightaway, but in time, I think he will be an after dinner speaker, write a tell-all book, present certain tv programmes, write more journalistic type stuff.

People are still interested in all the shenanigans and kiss and tell stuff, especially when it’s all died down.

.Petera He won't, anymore than David Cameron has been. That is why DC ended up going into business with a dodgy Australian financier. It was the only money on offer.

Both of them are political lightweights and BJ now has such a renowned reputation as a liar and cheat, that no one will want to employ him. he will have to fall back to being a jobbing journalist, probably unable to use his name on his articles because of his doubtful reputation.

I am convinced that the reason he is refusing to resign is because he needs the pay that goes with the PM's job to make ends meet - and even then I do not think they do.

If he goes he has two homes, a wife, many, many children and himself all to be maintained on an MP's salary.

I've been puzzling about Johnson's future. We all know what normally happens to figures like these when they retire at a (relatively) young age.

But do you think that after this display he will still be invited on to boards/play the elder statesman/go on the rubber chicken circuit?

Don't forget, Margaret Thatcher couldn't accept her time was up either - but she was prepared to listen to Denis eventually.

Penny Mordant? She is mentioned as a front runner. I don’t know much about her, but she’s not closely associated with blojo

Petronella Wyatt in today's Daily Mail.
"Boris is the best liar we have ever had as Prime Minister, and has successfully perpetuated the notion that all politicians lie, and so he is no worse than the next one.

'This canard has been unforgivable. My father, Woodrow Wyatt, was a politician for forty years and Margaret Thatcher and members of her Cabinet were frequent guests at our home.

'They did not lie their heads off, though sometimes obfuscation is a necessary part of a politician's armory. Thatcher, who had unimpeachable probity, would be horrified by Boris, not only the man, but his determination to cling inelegantly to office to the detriment of the country.'

MOnica we agree on the honesty issue. Thatcher was honest
Any of Johnson’s cabinet is suspect because of what looks like blind loyalty. Zahawe suspect for it is alleged, saying he’d resign if not given the job if Chancellor.
Tom Tughenhat, Johnny Mercer, Javid all seem bright and motivated to do what they believe to be right. Javid’s speech today was worth listening to
Can’t think if a conservative woman ?

I would have thought that any member of the present cabinet would not be considered as leader because of their reputation and that their membership of this dreadful cohort would make them toxic.
~there are other Tory Mp's who have talent...look at Tom Tugendhat who was ignored by Johnson , because of some previous confrontation.

Dishi Rishi Sunak…

Iam64 Mrs Thatcher is listed among honest Conservatives because she was one.

As I said above it is possible to admire and respect someone if they are inherently honest and truthful, even though you may profoundly disagree with their cause.

Would not trust

Nadim Zahawi will fight for Rishi Sunak for the job I think but TBH I would trust any of them .

MaizieD

Iam64

It’s a strange world where those of us who loathed Thatcher now add her to Clarke, Heseltine and more as honest tories we d prefer to johbson

We're only mentioning her integrity, Iam as a contrast to the greased piglet.. For me that doesn't indicate approval of any kind at all for her.

I don’t think my post indicated I approveof Thatcher, I still loathe her. I dislike her and all she stood for but unlike Johnson, I don’t see her as a liar

Please not another right wing populist. This one has been disastrous.

I would look for political integrity, competence, strong and fair policies, supporter of our institutions and upholder of our democracy, a firm hand on cultural integrity.

That is the minimum. Strange really as we took these qualities for granted at one time. This must never be lost again.

Esspee

Javid has to be the front runner after his speech today. Sunak has too many skeletons in his cupboard.
I reckon they have a pact Javid for PM, Sunak as deputy.

The vote will be whittled down to the last x2 and then out to the Party as a whole, to make up the final selection.

*Ben Wallace was being tipped this evening as being the one most popular with the rank and file.

I agree with having respect for Mrs Thatcher, even though one disagreed with her. Gordon Brown is someone for whom I have profound respect while disagreeing with him on so many issues.

In the past there have been a number of individuals whom I have respect for their principles and honesty, while profoundly opposed to the cause they support.

Javid has to be the front runner after his speech today. Sunak has too many skeletons in his cupboard.
I reckon they have a pact Javid for PM, Sunak as deputy.

I did think the next PM would be Rhisi Sunak but I suspect he may well now leave politics
So who may be next Ben Wallace

BBC news, 36 resignations now.

He still thinks he, rather than the party, got the 80 seat majority. I do wonder if he will go.

I’m sure Javid will be a candidate, Sunak not so sure, because of his family ties he attracted a lot of flack I won’t be surprised if he stays in the back benches.
So many have tarnished records now difficult to predict a front runner

Its 36 resignations now apparently.

Not her own personal gain but that of her son Mark who benefited from the arms deal she signed with Saudi Arabia in 1985.

I'd forgotten that Dinahmo.

Somebody on another thread said it’s 30 now Maizie. Like you I’ve only just come in, not gardening, but visiting mother in her care home.

OMG .. Not Mogg for heavens sake .. what a smug entitled Victorian Master .. straight out of Charles dickens ...