Resignation speech

DaisyL said
"he may have forgotten facts that certainly felt very trivial to him at the time."

I agree that other people being unable to say goodbye to their dying relatives or being unable to go to the funeral of someone they had been close to, did seem very trivial to Boris Johnson.

Gosh Susie3042 You must be absolutely furious with the party that has been in power for the last 12 years.

Autumnrose

Am I the only one who’s heard that Boris wants to stay on as PM so that he has access to Chequers for his planned summer wedding party?

Also he doesn't want the humiliation of spending less time in No. 10 than Theresa May!

Basically he has had to leave office for gross misconduct. In ANY other job that would mean being escorted off the premises. Johnson, go right now before you do any more damage.

I am concerned about Ukraine. I hope whoever succeeds BJ will continue to support them. I worry about Putin, and the effect all western leaders have on his thinking. ? that the new leader will be supportive.

Am I the only one who’s heard that Boris wants to stay on as PM so that he has access to Chequers for his planned summer wedding party?

Thought that would get you all going
You must all be lucky people
Obviously you dont want to think about the 1 million people who need homes in this country, the ones that cant get a doctor's appointment or a school place. Dont tell me the "Government " should build more
With what? We dont have enough money to keep paying for people who come here because we are a land of milk and honey. We are an island. We will run out of land, not enough , roads to take any more traffic, etc
How many more millions of people are you happy to have. No one answers that..to There are millions of people from all over the world on the move. We cant take them all
We need a world wide thought and decision on what to do
You can be as "nice " as you like , but no- one comes up.with a solution
How many have illegal immigrants living with them and paying for them.? Its always lets just be nice
The problem is being pushed down the line to our children and grandchildren.

DaisyL

rowyn I agree with everything you say - no one is perfect and Boris certainly has his flaws but he had them before he was elected so why the fury when he has been caught out telling a couple of 'fibs' - he has had a fairly busy love life and in order to that one probably needs to be able to talk one's way out of a situation! Also he has been pretty occupied with running the country and world problems so many things may have escaped his notice or he may have forgotten facts that certainly felt very trivial to him at the time.

You need to read this to educate yourself about what’s actually been happening DaisyL. There are plenty of other sources of information available for anybody who can be bothered to find out the truth of his known misdemeanours. The scary thing is that this is just the ones we know about so far.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/01/scandal-timeline-tory-sleaze-boris-johnson

DaisyL

When I joined GN I thought that there might be lots of nice, reasonable people on it! That was an error - I have seldom encountered a nastier, more self-righteous, humourless bunch. BJ may have done some bad things, but he has had more to contend with than most PMs - Brexit, Covid (both the pandemic and getting it personally) and then Ukraine. I can't wait to read the stream of vitriol that will undoubtedly come my way now!

It's one thing to be 'nice' or jovial at a WI meeting. it's quite another to be expected to smile at or overlook dishonesty in the leader of our country though. The whole point of having a PM is that s/he can be looked upon to deal with crises - not to use them as excuses for incompetence.

Oh, and it's not 'nice' to insult a bunch of Gransnetters and then attempt to neutralise their replies by writing them off as a 'stream of vitriol' either . One of the few advantages of being long in the tooth is that we can see through that sort of thing at a hundred paces.

rowyn

No Greta, it's part of the intelligence, integrity and morality possessed by the majority of this country.
And Brexit was not 'self inflicted', whatever that means. There was a democratic vote.
Boris responded far more quickly to Covid ( cf France) than most countries.
And he was one of the first to support Ukraine, whilst many leaders of other countries were wittering and worrying about the consequences of doing so.

We seem to have found a chink in the barrier between the universes and slid into a parallel one ?

rowyn I agree with everything you say - no one is perfect and Boris certainly has his flaws but he had them before he was elected so why the fury when he has been caught out telling a couple of 'fibs' - he has had a fairly busy love life and in order to that one probably needs to be able to talk one's way out of a situation! Also he has been pretty occupied with running the country and world problems so many things may have escaped his notice or he may have forgotten facts that certainly felt very trivial to him at the time.

Dillonsgranma

Well I’d much rather have Boris than Keir starmer ! And that awful woman who is his deputy. She is so awful it’s almost unbelievable!

How very strange….

No Greta, it's part of the intelligence, integrity and morality possessed by the majority of this country.
And Brexit was not 'self inflicted', whatever that means. There was a democratic vote.
Boris responded far more quickly to Covid ( cf France) than most countries.
And he was one of the first to support Ukraine, whilst many leaders of other countries were wittering and worrying about the consequences of doing so.

So what is he supposed to apologise for?
Brexit? Pandemic vaccinations? Supporting Ukraine? Or Partygate?
Yes, he is flawed, as are we all, so how many of you bent / broke the rules far more than he did during Lockdown, and got away with it?

How many of you have to rely on a group of lily livered idiots who cannot see the consequences of what they have done, and how much they have delighted the Labour party, Lib Dems and Putin?

I do wish he had less failings,and would have respected a more civilised way of forward planning in terms of succession. But all we are seeing at the moment is self preservation, delusions of grandeur and lots of plotting .

”BJ may have done some bad things, but he has had more to contend with than most PMs - Brexit, Covid (both the pandemic and getting it personally) and then Ukraine”.

Brexit was completely selfinflicted, Covid was a pandemic so not restricted to the UK, Ukraine is supported by many other countries.

I know we like to believe we are the only country that is offering support to Ukraine and that it was BJ who led the way. It all seems to be part of this depressing ”worldbeating” mentality this nation suffers from.

DaisyL

When I joined GN I thought that there might be lots of nice, reasonable people on it! That was an error - I have seldom encountered a nastier, more self-righteous, humourless bunch. BJ may have done some bad things, but he has had more to contend with than most PMs - Brexit, Covid (both the pandemic and getting it personally) and then Ukraine. I can't wait to read the stream of vitriol that will undoubtedly come my way now!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion???

Susie3042

I shall miss him , hope he can push forward with shipping these illegal immigrants bleeding our country dry, 5 million a day would be better spent on people who have paid into our country and could do with our help, instead of arriving and have it all laid out on a plate

Oh don’t be too worried - your heroine Patel is putting up for leader - you must hope she gets in.

Regardless of the fact that she is seen as a security risk by having secret talks with the Israelis - no one has ever found out what they were about - leaving behind her security minders and for which she got the sack.

Later if course she was found guilty of amongst other nasties - bullying her staffs - for which she has never paid any penalty.

Just the sort of person I’m sure that you would like as the next Tory leader.

DaisyL

When I joined GN I thought that there might be lots of nice, reasonable people on it! That was an error - I have seldom encountered a nastier, more self-righteous, humourless bunch. BJ may have done some bad things, but he has had more to contend with than most PMs - Brexit, Covid (both the pandemic and getting it personally) and then Ukraine. I can't wait to read the stream of vitriol that will undoubtedly come my way now!

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When I joined GN I thought that there might be lots of nice, reasonable people on it! That was an error - I have seldom encountered a nastier, more self-righteous, humourless bunch. BJ may have done some bad things, but he has had more to contend with than most PMs - Brexit, Covid (both the pandemic and getting it personally) and then Ukraine. I can't wait to read the stream of vitriol that will undoubtedly come my way now!

In place until October-plenty of time for more scandal and cock ups

Rosina

Daisend1 of course you will be shot down in flames - if you don't agree with the Boris Bashers your sanity will be questioned, as there is no room with some posters for anyone who takes a more moderate view.

Moderate ??!

FarNorth

Susie3042 what a nasty view you have posted .

Nasty and inaccurate. Quite put me off my lunch

Camelotclub

Stephanie48

Johnson says he ^was elected with the biggest majority since 1987 and the biggest share of the vote since 1979. He is proud of what he has done, he says. He mentions Brexit and getting the country through the pandemic and delivering the fastest vaccine rollout in Europe. And Britian has led the way in supporting Ukraine, he says^

Yes because people were desperate to keep Corbyn out of No.10!

They voted for him because they wanted a brexit which was based on the lies that Johnson had fed them. Because Johnson’s lies started long before he became PM.

Daisend1 of course you will be shot down in flames - if you don't agree with the Boris Bashers your sanity will be questioned, as there is no room with some posters for anyone who takes a more moderate view.

What will you miss about him? Susie3042

Just in case you don't know, when he was Mayor of London he advocated an amnesty for illegal immigrants... knowing how essential immigrants are to help grow an economy.

Have a nice day