It's official - it's not transphobic to recognise the reality of biological sex in humans

It is also legal for an individual to state their opinion that transwomen should not be in female wards etc.
Similar opinions, as tweets, were the reason for Maya Forstater's contract being terminated however the Employment Tribunal found that she was discriminated against because it is legal to state such opinions.
It is not, of course, legal to harass any individual transwoman.

If that’s the policy I mean.

Ahh, thank you. It’s shameful isn’t it?

To establish a separate or single-sex service, you must show that you meet at least one of a number of statutory conditions (set out in this section of the guide) and that limiting the service on the basis of sex is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim. For example, a legitimate aim could be for reasons of privacy, decency, to prevent trauma or to ensure health and safety. You must then be able to show that your action is a proportionate way of achieving that aim.

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/separate-and-single-sex-service-providers-guide-equality-act-sex-and-gender

It is legal for a hospital to say that and to run their female wards on that basis. However, women patients can do nothing about it if the hospital policy is to allow transwomen in female wards.

FarNorth can you clarify for me, is it legal to say that a transwoman can’t access a female only space such as a female ward in a hospital? I wasn’t sure what you were saying. I’m sorry, I’m probably just being thick.

It's awful when being nice is taken advantage of isn't it Doodledog.

'. . . .it should never have got started in the first place.'

You're right. This is what we get for 'being nice', and always accommodating what people want.

I also agree that we're making progress and did post last week somewhere on GN, that I was beginning to feel optimistic.

Still a long way to go though and I don't think I'll ever get over my anger that we have to anything about this at all, because it should never have got started in the first place.

maddyone the recent Maya Forstater employment tribunal and the preceding legal case have made clear that it is unlawful to discriminate against someone because of their belief in biological sex.

I'd think Nottingham City Council hasn't a leg to stand on but I hope they try, just for entertainment.

Maya Forstater.

I agree with Chewbacca that there is progress in the right direction. Court cases are finding in favour of sense, and organisations are sacking off Stonewall. I don't think we can be complacent yet, but there are signs that Labour politicians are realising that they will lose votes if they continue to pander to the TRAs, although the Greens, Lib Dems and SNP seem fairly entrenched. It's still baby steps, but I think they are happening.

It’s worrying isn’t it, when all authorities seem to be falling over themselves to say transwomen are women. They’re not, they’re men. I’m sorry that some people feel they were born in the wrong body, and am perfectly happy for them to wear clothing designed for the opposite sex, but they're not women, whatever anyone says. And consequently they should not be in female prisons or on female wards in hospitals. Or any other spaces that are exclusively for women. But we’re up against a huge problem when all authorities appear to pander to the idea that transwomen should be in female spaces, and people such as J.K Rowling and the lady in the link (sorry, forgot her name) are being cancelled.

Chewbacca
You have more faith than me ?
We have the bbc which is the largest news outlet in the world acting like bat shit woke central.

Solidarity!

By the way, the money for Julie Bindel's case was raised in just a few days from donations averaging £25.

£39,175 pledged of £35,000 stretch target from 1,628 pledges

Here is an update on Julie Bindel's legal challenge to Nottingham City Council which cancelled her booking in one of its libraries, for a talk about prevention of violence against women.
The reason given by the Council was that they disagree with JB's views on women's rights.

(The talk did go ahead, in the library car park.)

Update on [being] De-platformed by Nottingham City Council for Defending Women

Dear Supporters

Thank you for your continued support and interest in our case. Here is a quick update on what has happened since we reached our target:

My lawyers have sent a Letter Before Action, requesting a response by 21st July 2022. The money raised has been used to pay the costs of my solicitor and barristers in helping to craft the substantive document. Obviously, once we have received a response, depending on the outcome, my legal team will advise me on further steps. I will keep you posted.

I have had support from all areas, and am so grateful for yours. Thank you so much for making it possible to hold NCC to account.

Best wishes, Julie

www.crowdjustice.com/case/de-platformed-by-nottingham-ci/?utm_source=backer_social&utm_campaign=de-platformed-by-nottingham-ci&utm_reference=42533ebb9cb436252d0a6a86b1e65a3a&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_content=post_pledge_page

Thanks for that MerylStreep, as you say, all achieved in 15 years. But I'm ever so slightly more optimistic than I was; these conversations are becoming more open and frequent, despite warnings that even having a conversation about trans issues is harmful. People do seem to be waking up to what's at stake.

Doodledog

Yet another example of centring male wants at the expense of female needs.

Yes, this.

FarNorth

Thanks for mentioning that MerylStreep.
I just looked it out and recommend others to give it a listen - from 3mins in and lasting about 6 mins, on this video.
youtu.be/GnC9mzIcOpQ

Is it available anywhere without the wearying adverts for GB News?

Thanks for mentioning that MerylStreep.
I just looked it out and recommend others to give it a listen - from 3mins in and lasting about 6 mins, on this video.
youtu.be/GnC9mzIcOpQ

Why are his rights more important and enshrined in law than hers?

His 'rights' in this instance are not enshrined in law - exactly the opposite.
But the school has chosen to override the rights of its female pupils.

I was watching Andrew Doyle last night on his show Free Speech Nation.
He started by saying: let’s go back 15 years and someone will tell you this is going to happen ( all the crap we’re talking about here)
He went into the most detailed monologue of all the things that have been written and said Re what we can’t say/do.
Then came the kicker: he said: this has happened in just 15 years imagine what could happen in the next 15.

They shouldn't be. She cannot help her disability, and she should receive the help and support that she needs, not just have to adhere to a tick-box culture.?

Another dreadful aspect of that DiamondLily is that the young girl can't even change her own menstrual sanitary wear and has to rely on her carers to do that for her. How can it possibly be right, that the safety and dignity of a physically and mentally handicapped girl, is overridden by the wishes of a biological male? Why are his rights more important and enshrined in law than hers?

That is appalling DiamondLily.
So other young girls at the school will have no choice if their parents don't realise the policy has changed or don't make a huge fuss.

What other safeguards do they think can be dispensed with, I wonder.