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Johnson's Resignation Honours List.

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FarNorth Sat 16-Jul-22 19:33:20

There is a petition to try to prevent Johnson from making an honours list.

www.change.org/p/prevent-boris-johnson-from-having-a-resignation-honours-list?signed=true

MaizieD Tue 12-Jul-22 20:10:52

Esspee

If a PM has been removed in disgrace surely he shouldn't be allowed to produce an honours list. He should be replaced immediately and an interim head of the Conservative party appointed to take over.

He hasn't been removed from the PM job in disgrace; only from the party leadership.

I'm rather interested in whether he is investigated by the security services for his Italian escapade while Foreign Secretary. That should remove him in disgrace...

M0nica Tue 12-Jul-22 17:11:54

MaizieD I quite agree. The parallels between Johnson and Trump are very uncomfortable, especially, following he Congressional hearings.

Esspee Tue 12-Jul-22 12:56:34

If a PM has been removed in disgrace surely he shouldn't be allowed to produce an honours list. He should be replaced immediately and an interim head of the Conservative party appointed to take over.

MaizieD Tue 12-Jul-22 12:10:03

M0nica

At least there was a means of getting rid of Boris. If only there were a way of getting rid of Putin.

Johnson was trying to make himself unremoveable (is that a word?) with gathering more and more powers to the Executive and bypassing Parliament, but it seems that he's now been stopped in his tracks. There is nothing to stop his successor having a go, though. While ever they have a majority of nodding dogs in the Commons they can more or less do what they please.

This is one of Johnson's serious, but entirely disregarded, legacies.

M0nica Tue 12-Jul-22 11:53:23

At least there was a means of getting rid of Boris. If only there were a way of getting rid of Putin.

MayBee70 Mon 11-Jul-22 18:50:55

He hasn’t really resigned. He’s been sacked for misconduct. Just as no one can be accused of being a liar in parliament there shouldn’t be this farce of pretending he’s resigned.

varian Mon 11-Jul-22 18:41:19

The Liberal Democrats have written to the House of Lords appointments commission and the Cabinet Office honours committee urging them both to block any resignation honours Johnson proposes, arguing the prime minister is too tarnished to do so.

M0nica Sun 10-Jul-22 19:35:58

I think there is an honours committee that has to approve them. if it happens Boris will not be the first PM to have some of his nominees turned down. Nor the first to award the rich and helpful.

Anyone remember Harold Wilson's resignation honours? The so called 'Lavender List'. that list drew much criticism. Wilson gave peerages and knighthoods to various wealthy businessmen who, according to many, shared contrary political principles to Wilson and his Labour Party. (But knew when it paid them to be helpful to the government)

Tony Blair also had problems. The 'Cash for Honours' scandal (which surfaced after several men nominated for life peerages by Tony Blair in 2006 were rejected by the House of Lords Appointments Commission) meant that Tony Blair did not submit a Resignation Honours list in 2007.

So whatever Boris does, some other PM will have done something equally didgy.

spabbygirl Sun 10-Jul-22 16:48:03

Boris won't bother about rules, he'll do it anyway

DiamondLily Sun 10-Jul-22 15:56:59

But he will anyway.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Jul-22 15:50:57

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL

Hearing very interesting discussions going on inside Buck House about how to stop Johnson debasing the Queen once more with resignations honours. He should not be allowed to have them. Full. Stop.

DiamondLily Sun 10-Jul-22 15:50:37

vegansrock

Could he give himself a peerage?

If he can, he will...?

vegansrock Sun 10-Jul-22 15:32:00

Could he give himself a peerage?

FarNorth Sun 10-Jul-22 15:29:57

Those are not good reasons to put someone in the house of lords.

M0nica Sun 10-Jul-22 14:05:57

I thought a resignation honours list was to enablea retiring PM to reward those in his privte office and those who worked closely with a PM to reward their loyalty and their putting up with the worst of their boss through thick and thin.

I do not see its purpose as being for the PM to enoble his family or grease the fists tof those hat could be useful afterwards..

FarNorth Sun 10-Jul-22 13:23:39

If he can do it, he will. Self-aggrandisement to the end!

DiamondLily Sun 10-Jul-22 12:15:20

I don't think she can formally object, although I suppose she could privately.

PMs award honours when they go, and they are then given out in the Queen's name.

He's still formally PM until he's replaced, so I suppose he can do all sorts of stuff. ?

Lovetopaint037 Sun 10-Jul-22 11:20:03

The above posts read like the final nail in a horror story. However, if he does not behave in the way expected it could achieve a spot of redemption. I did read somewhere a headline stating he shouldn’t be able to provide an honours list. Does the Queen have to agree the list? She may be having immobile issues but she seems as intellectually sharp as she always was.

winterwhite Sun 10-Jul-22 10:34:36

First things first - let's get him out of 10 Downing Street for a start.

Though re ND, why is the H of L not considered front line politics? If it's as dumbed down as that there's no point in it.

Allegra Stratton deserves another decent job and I hope she finds one.

Shinamae Sun 10-Jul-22 10:27:34

Really,really should not be allowed but of of course it will be…??‍♀️

FarNorth Sun 10-Jul-22 10:22:05

Oh, seriously, how ridiculous can it get ?

DiamondLily Sun 10-Jul-22 10:12:56

Ending as it started. Help for chums. ?

"Boris Johnson is thought to be considering a peerage for his most loyal cabinet minister Nadine Dorries as part of his resignation honours list.

The prime minister is reportedly planning to put his culture secretary into the House of Lords as part of a tradition allowing him to recommend certain appointments before leaving No 10.

According to the Sunday Times, Ms Dorries is “expected” to go to the upper chamber and depart frontline politics for novel writing after Mr Johnson’s downfall.

Paul Dacre, the former editor of the Daily Mail, and billionaire Tory donor Michael Hintze are also said to be in line to be ennobled in the next couple of months.

The newspaper reported that a No 10 official contacted a veteran Tory to ask whether it was possible to give Stanley Johnson a knighthood on the basis he was “once an MEP”, but the senior party figure advised against it.

Allegra Stratton – who quit as Mr Johnson’s spokeswoman after she was captured joking about at Christmas gathering at the start of the Partygate scandal – is said to be “tipped” for a peerage as part of the PM’s resignation list.

The former BBC and ITV journalist briefly acted as the prime minister’s spokesperson for the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nadine-dorries-peerage-b2119631.html