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So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

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Bea65 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:01:44

Well am not surprised.. Are you? Feel dismayed by the Cons and the awful skullduggery that has gone on..need a glass or 2..hmm

Petera Tue 26-Jul-22 15:01:02

Riverwalk

Aw, I missed the word --what was it?--

It was very similar to the Welsh word for 'carrot'

Zonne Tue 26-Jul-22 15:01:29

Liz Truss, and the consequences of her inadequacy, will be the gift that keeps on giving for Labour.

Petera Tue 26-Jul-22 15:06:19

Petera

Riverwalk

Aw, I missed the word --what was it?--

It was very similar to the Welsh word for 'carrot'

Sorry all, just noticed this had been pointed out.

Baggytrazzas Tue 26-Jul-22 15:11:43

Petera

Riverwalk

Aw, I missed the word --what was it?--

It was very similar to the Welsh word for 'carrot'

Maybe then it's time for some non deletable subsitute words instead, such as adopting the Welsh word for carrot instead of the deletable version. I mean, let's all behave like adults. Lol

bevisp1 Tue 26-Jul-22 15:12:03

Personally, and I know this will not sit well with most of you, I say bring back Boris.
After hearing that we are to lose Boris I have always said rishi sunak for next PM, but after seeing him and Liz last night on the debate, I am now not so sure.

Baggytrazzas Tue 26-Jul-22 15:13:44

Substitute , wrong spelling rather than substitute word

Farzanah Tue 26-Jul-22 15:24:12

I did think Truss looked very weak against Sunak who kept interrupting and constantly talking over her, and couldn’t help thinking how he wouldn’t get away with it with some of the LP women. Angela Rayner springs to mind.

Iam64 Tue 26-Jul-22 15:34:30

Initially I was irritated by Sunak talking over her. By the end I was shocked LT thinks she’s strong enough to be PM but couldn’t stop Sunak interrupting her.
Putin?!

HousePlantQueen Tue 26-Jul-22 15:36:28

I cannot believe how appalling the so called debate was last night, I am very concerned about the economic future of this country, I am very concerned that people are talking, in all seriousness about a return to Thatcher economics which was in my opinion, the start of the spiral downwards of public services and general humanity, and very concerned that there are people of voting age who are even talking about the potential of a Johnson return, or are bemoaning the loss of the great liar. Be very afraid

AGAA4 Tue 26-Jul-22 15:45:43

Sunak looked flustered I thought and slightly out of control.
Truss didn't seem able to control his outbursts.
Neither is good enough to be the PM.
I am annoyed that while our country is in the state it's in these two are the only choice and the majority of us don't even have that choice.

HousePlantQueen Tue 26-Jul-22 15:47:07

I also was sickened by Truss's dismissal of her childhood; she was raised in a comfortable middle class area, her Father was a professor, her Mother a teacher and she attended a good school under a Tory administration. Her attempts to paint her upbringing as challenging are appalling and patronising, her childhood was hardly a misery of DH Lawrence proportions. I would be very hurt if I was her parents.

Doodledog Tue 26-Jul-22 15:52:39

I would rather they had been sitting down, with a presenter asking each of them the same questions, one at a time, with a fixed time to respond and a shorter right of reply after each one. No interruptions allowed, as inaccuracies could be challenged in the right of reply.

A fact-checker could check out any statistics or historical claims, and correct both candidates when necessary.

Having them standing at lecterns talking over one another was a very poor way to conduct the 'debate' and made it more of a 'show', which it should not have been.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 16:04:38

HousePlantQueen

I also was sickened by Truss's dismissal of her childhood; she was raised in a comfortable middle class area, her Father was a professor, her Mother a teacher and she attended a good school under a Tory administration. Her attempts to paint her upbringing as challenging are appalling and patronising, her childhood was hardly a misery of DH Lawrence proportions. I would be very hurt if I was her parents.

I think her school will feel affront too.After all they presumably encouraged her Oxford University application.
Politicians often try and either play down their roots or even make up alternative ones.This does not fool many people, especially nowadays when facts are easily checked.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 16:06:36

I have never understood having to stand at lecterns either, perhaps they think it looks statesmanlike?
Think of the US candidates, they stand for a very long time arguing with each other.

growstuff Tue 26-Jul-22 16:08:22

Doodledog

I would rather they had been sitting down, with a presenter asking each of them the same questions, one at a time, with a fixed time to respond and a shorter right of reply after each one. No interruptions allowed, as inaccuracies could be challenged in the right of reply.

A fact-checker could check out any statistics or historical claims, and correct both candidates when necessary.

Having them standing at lecterns talking over one another was a very poor way to conduct the 'debate' and made it more of a 'show', which it should not have been.

That's exactly what happens at the pre-election hustings I've been to. Candidates sometimes react with a facial expression, but they don't get to attack the other hopefuls.

Ailidh Tue 26-Jul-22 16:56:31

I've just looked up the Welsh for carrot. Tee hee.

Joseanne Tue 26-Jul-22 17:12:21

Ailidh

I've just looked up the Welsh for carrot. Tee hee.

Me too!
I assume it was applied to Liz Truss not Rishi?

growstuff Tue 26-Jul-22 17:20:02

Ailidh

I've just looked up the Welsh for carrot. Tee hee.

My curiosity got the better of me grin.

Farzanah Tue 26-Jul-22 18:33:07

Why are we moderated differently to MN anyway. Is it because of our delicate sensibilities?

Ailidh Tue 26-Jul-22 18:47:37

I'm happy to call Liz Truss a carrot. ?

Following the debate on the BBC news app, and there appears to have been some trouble at the studio. However carrotty I might find some people, I hope they're OK.

LauraNorderr Tue 26-Jul-22 18:53:12

Medical issue apparently but not affecting the two candidates

Galaxy Tue 26-Jul-22 19:03:53

MN is moderated much more than GN. I cant believe the stuff that stands on here. It would disappear in seconds on MN.

Farzanah Tue 26-Jul-22 19:22:47

Really Galaxy?

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 19:32:16

LauraNorderr

Medical issue apparently but not affecting the two candidates

I actually felt sorry for Ms Truss, she looked like she got a fright. Hope everybody's OK.

Farzanah Tue 26-Jul-22 19:42:42

For research purposes just popped into MN.
Plenty of ripe language floating around there!