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So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

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Bea65 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:01:44

Well am not surprised.. Are you? Feel dismayed by the Cons and the awful skullduggery that has gone on..need a glass or 2..hmm

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-Jul-22 13:39:57

Not sure about Johnson’s hair? It hasn’t always looked such a mess. I think it is some peculiar affectation.

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 13:40:52

Prentice

Ah, I see that Gransnet does not like that word either.
Posters may see this as heavyhanded, but certain words should not be used, are we not better than that nowadays?
How will we ever change if the insulting words of the past are encouraged or at least not challenged.So many other words to be used if you do not like a politician, or anyone else come to that.

Aye, somebody must have reported it....hmm

Farzanah Tue 26-Jul-22 13:45:17

So I go out for the morning and miss the excitement and naughty words. How fortunate to have escaped exposure to such depravity ?
Thank you so much GN moderators.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 13:48:20

Certainly not me Volver as I believe in posts staying in place so that everyone can see what is happening.However Gransnet probably have a list of words that are unacceptable, or at least make a judgement on them.It’s a nasty little word from the past, moreover quite ridiculous when speaking of a politician who attended Oxford University.So it did not even make sense. If you feel angry about this matter then speak to the moderators of the site.

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 13:49:47

One must never question a PM candidate's ability to make sensible deductions or understand the intricacies of the tax system. One must especially never opine that her ability to find her way out of a room with one door in any way reflects on her intellectual capacity, by using a word which is in common use. That would be just unacceptable.

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Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 13:51:07

Whitewavemark2

Not sure about Johnson’s hair? It hasn’t always looked such a mess. I think it is some peculiar affectation.

I think this too, although he may have very flyaway hair which is hard to tame.I have seen a photo of him when he attended Eton School and he was a food looking boy with lovely hair, in a different style.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 13:53:39

Good looking not food looking, hehe.

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 13:53:46

Prentice

Certainly not me Volver as I believe in posts staying in place so that everyone can see what is happening.However Gransnet probably have a list of words that are unacceptable, or at least make a judgement on them.It’s a nasty little word from the past, moreover quite ridiculous when speaking of a politician who attended Oxford University.So it did not even make sense. If you feel angry about this matter then speak to the moderators of the site.

I believe you are new-ish, isn't that correct Prentice? Then you maybe won't have seen the many times that people have pointed out that moderators only get involved when someone reports a post.

I never have any issue with things being deleted. Its their site, they can delete what they like.

Didn't Johnson go to Oxford? Not a shining example of intellectual magnificence, IMO. (Am I allowed to say that?)

Galaxy Tue 26-Jul-22 13:55:28

There are all sorts of words that are in common use that arent allowed on internet forums. There is a danger in putting the control of words into the hands of those who run sites but you really cant expect GN to be some sort of freedom fighter for free expression (they take quite a lot of risks in that capacity on MN).

rosie1959 Tue 26-Jul-22 13:56:42

volver

One must never question a PM candidate's ability to make sensible deductions or understand the intricacies of the tax system. One must especially never opine that her ability to find her way out of a room with one door in any way reflects on her intellectual capacity, by using a word which is in common use. That would be just unacceptable.

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Perhaps nitwit would be more acceptable and that’s from a normally Conservative voter If she is trying to emulate Thatcher then I suspect the Lady is turning in her grave.

Galaxy Tue 26-Jul-22 13:56:43

Cross post volver.

Katie59 Tue 26-Jul-22 13:58:48

Because the majority of Tory members voting are Older Men
which candidate is going to appeal to them.
For me Sunak has tunnel vision about the economy, his way or the highway.
Truss seems not entirely confident but could be more easily manipulated by the right wing ERG.

Callistemon21 Tue 26-Jul-22 14:00:39

Prentice

Whitewavemark2

Not sure about Johnson’s hair? It hasn’t always looked such a mess. I think it is some peculiar affectation.

I think this too, although he may have very flyaway hair which is hard to tame.I have seen a photo of him when he attended Eton School and he was a food looking boy with lovely hair, in a different style.

I have seen it reported that he deliberately tousles his hair before appearing on TV.
A friend of mine does this, but not deliberately, rather in a distracted fashion.

Anyway, it's irrelevant now, there are two candidates with lovely hair to choose from ............

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 14:05:16

This is true Galaxy there are many words which may be shouted in the street or laughed about as insults, but forums should be and often are better than that.
I am glad that you are not bothered by the deletion Volver and accept it and realise now it should not be used as a form of insult.
Yes I am enjoying this site but the tech issues are becoming a nuisance for me, as so hard to post, and pages jump around.

Riverwalk Tue 26-Jul-22 14:05:19

rosie1959

volver

One must never question a PM candidate's ability to make sensible deductions or understand the intricacies of the tax system. One must especially never opine that her ability to find her way out of a room with one door in any way reflects on her intellectual capacity, by using a word which is in common use. That would be just unacceptable.

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Perhaps nitwit would be more acceptable and that’s from a normally Conservative voter If she is trying to emulate Thatcher then I suspect the Lady is turning in her grave.

Now, now rosie be careful with nitwit - I've just been checking in case it has naughty archaic usage and see that synonyms include clodpole, spoony and moon-calf grin which sound well dodgy!

LauraNorderr Tue 26-Jul-22 14:09:16

A word is used by a poster, another poster thinks the word is inappropriate, first poster justifies their use of word. Some agree, some disagree. It’s known as adult discussion. A Welsh speaker would read the word as meaning carrot and perhaps go on to discuss beetroot.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 14:09:21

Speaking of hair Callistemon I think that Liz Truss has a lovely shade of hair, a sort of red blonde.
Hair apart, it is looking very much the case that she will win this contest.I shall be watching the debate the evening with interest.

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 14:10:34

realise now it should not be used as a form of insult.

It wasn't an insult. Just an observation. smile

Callistemon21 Tue 26-Jul-22 14:12:53

LauraNorderr

A word is used by a poster, another poster thinks the word is inappropriate, first poster justifies their use of word. Some agree, some disagree. It’s known as adult discussion. A Welsh speaker would read the word as meaning carrot and perhaps go on to discuss beetroot.

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Casdon Tue 26-Jul-22 14:18:24

Callistemon21

LauraNorderr

A word is used by a poster, another poster thinks the word is inappropriate, first poster justifies their use of word. Some agree, some disagree. It’s known as adult discussion. A Welsh speaker would read the word as meaning carrot and perhaps go on to discuss beetroot.

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I’d say she’s more of a lemwn.

volver Tue 26-Jul-22 14:24:06

Careful Casdon, you might offend someone. ?

Good comment LauraNorderr.

MaizieD Tue 26-Jul-22 14:40:49

Prentice

This is true Galaxy there are many words which may be shouted in the street or laughed about as insults, but forums should be and often are better than that.
I am glad that you are not bothered by the deletion Volver and accept it and realise now it should not be used as a form of insult.
Yes I am enjoying this site but the tech issues are becoming a nuisance for me, as so hard to post, and pages jump around.

I feel very tempted to report you for being patronising, Prentice. This is not an infant school (though that might be unbelievable at times) and posters lecturing other posters about their behaviour is not always appreciated.

MaizieD Tue 26-Jul-22 14:42:58

Prentice

Whitewavemark2

Not sure about Johnson’s hair? It hasn’t always looked such a mess. I think it is some peculiar affectation.

I think this too, although he may have very flyaway hair which is hard to tame.I have seen a photo of him when he attended Eton School and he was a food looking boy with lovely hair, in a different style.

He does it on purpose. It's just an act, like everything else he does.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 14:54:25

I do not think I was patronising at all, but if being so is deletable then by all means go ahead MaizieD.
Often on sites new posters are told they should not speak up,
I do not go along with this.
Let us not prolong this type of conversation, as to do so would really be like infant school.

Time for more political discussions.

Prentice Tue 26-Jul-22 14:58:18

What I am wondering is which contender would Sir Keir Starmer like to deal with best?
I think he would prefer Rishi Starmer. I cannot see him wanting to cross swords with a woman with such relish.
Also I think that Liz Truss is more of a worry for the Labour Party, as she seems to be saying things that appeal to the red wall voters.