So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

I have no faith in how any of the political parties choose their leaders. LP got the wrong Milliband (IMO) because of the block vote, Corbyn was an absolute disaster, KR was the best of a bad lot but uninspiring, Cameron was terrible and lacked judgement, BJ is a joke and if they choose Truss, well words fail me! Why do we have such poor politicians and then have systems that mean the rubbish rise to the top instead of the best? Perhaps we always had poor politicians but now their weaknesses are more easily exposed. Do people come into politics for the wrong reasons? Certainly I have an MP vaguely in the family by marriage and he's a complete idiot who I wouldn't employ to mow my lawns! I am utterly disillusioned and sickened by it all!

Politically naive but cynical here - I think it was always going to be Truss, all the rest were camouflage.

Bring back Theresa May…

All I know is that I will never vote Conservative again. I have zero faith in any political party at the moment.

So we are swapping a pound shop Churchill for a pound shop Thatcher . Whilst Thatcher may be popular with the tory base, she wasn’t popular in the red wall or anywhere else really. The Tories may have shot themselves in the foot on this one ( fingers crossed). We are in for loads of tax cuts and no doubt more cuts in the already crumbling public services. Grim.

I don’t like either of them. I suppose Rishi is the more professional, but I don’t care for him at all.

Rishi Sunak - PPE, Oxford
Liz Truss - PPE, Oxford

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At the end of the day the winner will be The Daily Mail and Telegraph, which are the most read papers by older Tory members. Oh and the Express favoured by a few such as my neighbour.
Such is democracy in Britain today.

I always think so Fennel as it is such a tough job, and a life lived in the public glare, but there are never a shortage of applicants who wish to do it.

Whoever has the misfortune to inhert this job, Tory or Labour - I wish them God's help.
They'll need it.

Ah but polls are quite often wrong after all, as we know.
I would now prefer Rishi Sunak to win and be PM as he will be competent if nothing else.Smart and articulate as well. He would do very well at PMQ’s.
Quite a wait now though until we will know.

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

Don't worry about Truss, Rishi will win.

Telegraph says poll shows that Truss will win.

And the bookies do, she’s way ahead judging by the information collated by the Guardian.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/19/tory-leadership-latest-odds-tracker-bookies-next-pm

It’s unbelievable.

By the next general election it looks likely that the economy will be in an even worse state than it is now, which is pretty bad.

Many voters will have suffered, seeing their real incomes decline while costs rise.

Rishi Sunak could not shrug off responsibility for trashing our economy because he has spent a lot of time as Chancellor.

Liz Truss looks like a glove puppet operated by the ERGs . Although, when she was apparently still capable of independent thought, she voted Remain, she is so consumed by ambition way beyond her abilities that she has done a complete about turn and is now more brexity than Marc Francois. She is a puppet of the ERGs who now control much of the Conservative Party and she will do and say anything they chose to programme her to do and say.

What a brilliant choice!

If the Opposition cannot make mincemeat out of either of these chancers, they have no right to call themselves Opposition MPs.








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Chestnut

Don't worry about Truss, Rishi will win.

Telegraph says poll shows that Truss will win.

Neither Thank you

Personally I can't think about the next GE, we need transparent solutions to the cost of living crisis et al, NOW..not in another 18 months +

Who ever takes over from Johnson will be a multimillionaire with a closet skeleton count only surpassed by their broken promises. They will have the use of crown powers to do what they want with no democratic accountability.

Casdon

DaisyAnne

One of the other members - who is a Conservative member - did not agree with the above. At the beginning of the voting he had said:

^Although I want to keep the role of PM for an ethnic Brit, I would vote for Patel if a Remainer was the other candidate.^

Name and shame DaisyAnne, that is an appalling comment.

It's an older demographic, hard to be anything other than Conservative and Pro-Brexit forum. I don't think naming them would help but you are right, it was awful to be reminded, once again, that this is how enough people thought to push through some terrible decisions.

Don't worry about Truss, Rishi will win.

Westminster Voting Intention:

Truss as Conservative Leader

LAB: 37% (+4)
CON: 25% (-20)
LDM: 16% (+4)
GRN: 9% (+6)
REF: 3% (+1)

To win would be the 'poisoned chalice' Whoever it is handed to, Sunak or Truss, will be out at the next GE.

I think the Tory Membership will go for an Ethnic Brit. so cross your fingers Rishi and be thankful that you will not be the one to have to resign in the coming defeat in a GE

If I remember rightly both the Tories and lib dems have a lower proportion of women, than say the labour party or greens. I thought average age was pretty similar across the parties but it was a while ago I looked at the figures.

CoolCoco

Truss is a total robot, Im hoping she wins as shell be made mincemeat of by just about any interviewer. Did anyone see her on that select committee where she couldn't answer any of the questions about trading with authoritarian regimes.

I did. She was dire.

Although I want to keep the role of PM for an ethnic Brit, I would vote for Patel if a Remainer was the other candidate

Jeez!!! What an appalling comment - discriminatory on so many levels. So, these are the sort of people who will choose the next PM of this country?

But they’re NOT the best this country can offer!!! We have a strong, committed, confident Labour Party ready to govern. Just give us a GE - let democracy happen and let the people decide!