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So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

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Bea65 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:01:44

Well am not surprised.. Are you? Feel dismayed by the Cons and the awful skullduggery that has gone on..need a glass or 2..hmm

MayBee70 Wed 20-Jul-22 17:46:47

I read that Conservative party membership was made up of elderly men. But it was from a few years back. I assume it hasn’t changed.

Casdon Wed 20-Jul-22 17:43:52

DaisyAnne

One of the other members - who is a Conservative member - did not agree with the above. At the beginning of the voting he had said:

^Although I want to keep the role of PM for an ethnic Brit, I would vote for Patel if a Remainer was the other candidate.^

Name and shame DaisyAnne, that is an appalling comment.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 20-Jul-22 17:40:13

Heaven help us all. This country is a disgrace if the best we can offer is these two, particularly the robot Truss. sad angry

DaisyAnne Wed 20-Jul-22 17:40:08

Another, on 17 July, said:

Alok Sharma (who ?) threatens to resign if the new leader ditches net zero pledge.
Full of his self importance who cares if he resigns ?. ???

These are your actual Tory voters folks. I think it's worth remembering what the Tories actually want not what job hunting MPs they tell you they want.

LizzieDrip Wed 20-Jul-22 17:39:31

^I’ve been disillusioned for years, and I can’t see much changing with either of these.
What a sorry state.^

Agreed Sara1954 but, worry not, when Labour win the next GE you’ll see this country change for the better in many, many ways. So, there is light at the end of this 12 year tunnel!

RichmondPark1 Wed 20-Jul-22 17:39:16

She will cut taxes, remove unnecessary red tape, create Thatcher-like enterprise zones, shake up obstructive Whitehall, lead on world affairs and deliver more Brexit opportunities as prime minister.

Isn't that exactly what Johnson promised he would do but then didn't?

DaisyAnne Wed 20-Jul-22 17:36:31

One of the other members - who is a Conservative member - did not agree with the above. At the beginning of the voting he had said:

Although I want to keep the role of PM for an ethnic Brit, I would vote for Patel if a Remainer was the other candidate.

LizzieDrip Wed 20-Jul-22 17:36:22

Wow, that’s the first time I’ve heard LT described as ‘heavyweight’. I really, really, really hope she wins the final round and becomes the next PM. She’s an absolutely flaky. Bring it on!

Sara1954 Wed 20-Jul-22 17:36:07

Well I didn’t really like any of the candidates, but if these two are the best we can do, I give up!
I’ve been disillusioned for years, and I can’t see much changing with either of these.
What a sorry state.

DaisyAnne Wed 20-Jul-22 17:32:37

I've just had a look at a forum that is comprises a small number of posters, most of whom voted Leave and quite a few of whom actually have a vote. They are the remains of the Tories. This was quoted about Liz Truss a few days ago.

David Bannerman On Liz Truss today….

She has become a keen Brexiteer, as evidenced by support from Jacob Rees-Mogg, ERG Chairman Mark Francois and former party leader Iain Duncan Smith. She is the heavyweight Brexit team leader. Truss has the conviction of a convert, and has been best at delivering Brexit opportunities: a whole host of valuable trade deals the EU has failed to deliver on (I know as I sat on their trade committee for 10 years). She has come out fighting on the Protocol Bill too, which as a former special adviser on the Northern Ireland Peace Process I know to be vital. She will cut taxes, remove unnecessary red tape, create Thatcher-like enterprise zones, shake up obstructive Whitehall, lead on world affairs and deliver more Brexit opportunities as prime minister. I love the aspiration nation concept. That was the point of Brexit.

LizzieDrip Wed 20-Jul-22 17:30:16

I think we can look forward to Prime Minister Truss, as dire as that sounds!

Agree Riverwalk. It sounds fantastic to me because with LT as PM, Labour is absolutely certain to win the next GE! So, she won’t be PM for too long.gringringrin

Riverwalk Wed 20-Jul-22 17:27:26

Sorry that was to Deedaa

Casdon Wed 20-Jul-22 17:27:10

Oh no, I can tell by my reflection in Rishi’s eyes that I’ve over- plucked my eyebrows… (zoom in)

sodapop Wed 20-Jul-22 17:26:50

Have to agree Deeda Truss can barely string a sentence together at times. It is indeed a low benchmark.

Riverwalk Wed 20-Jul-22 17:26:30

Not very competent though - highest inflation in the G7 and highest taxes in 70 years.

CoolCoco Wed 20-Jul-22 17:25:21

Truss is a total robot, Im hoping she wins as shell be made mincemeat of by just about any interviewer. Did anyone see her on that select committee where she couldn't answer any of the questions about trading with authoritarian regimes.

Deedaa Wed 20-Jul-22 17:19:38

The most I can say is that Rishi is more competent than Truss, but that really is all I can say. It's a very low benchmark.

Farzanah Wed 20-Jul-22 17:15:40

Truss ?
Well if we’re not at war beforehand, Labour will win the next election, even if in its weak current state.
What an indictment of political choice in this country.

Petera Wed 20-Jul-22 17:07:31

Dinahmo

If Truss is PM my guess is that Labour will win the next GE.

PMQs will be entertaining.

..and the breakup of the UK. All Nicola has to do is look over her reading glasses and say "Liz Truss? Really?"

nadateturbe Wed 20-Jul-22 17:03:30

You said it well GagaJo.

GagaJo Wed 20-Jul-22 16:54:33

Jeez. How f***ing depressing. I'm scared to live in this country these days.

MayBee70 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:51:49

Mamardoit

nadateturbe

Dinahmo

If Truss is PM my guess is that Labour will win the next GE.

PMQs will be entertaining.

I do hope so.
This is too, too depressing.

If they can't win the next GE they may as well shut up shop. As an opposition they have been a complete disgrace. They need a new leader too.

Can you explain why they have been a disgrace?

Mamardoit Wed 20-Jul-22 16:46:57

nadateturbe

Dinahmo

If Truss is PM my guess is that Labour will win the next GE.

PMQs will be entertaining.

I do hope so.
This is too, too depressing.

If they can't win the next GE they may as well shut up shop. As an opposition they have been a complete disgrace. They need a new leader too.

AGAA4 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:39:07

The only choice for our PM is Sunak or Truss? What an an awful situation our country is in.

Doodledog Wed 20-Jul-22 16:33:24

Galaxy

I actually think Johnson has been incredibly damaging to the Tory party, I think it will take them a while to recover.

He has, and it will; but we have to somehow limp on until the GE, which could be 18 months away. It's a gloomy prospect with the world in the state it's in.