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So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

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Bea65 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:01:44

Well am not surprised.. Are you? Feel dismayed by the Cons and the awful skullduggery that has gone on..need a glass or 2..hmm

MayBee70 Tue 02-Aug-22 23:15:34

Is it just me or is all this becoming totally surreal?

RichmondPark1 Tue 02-Aug-22 21:47:23

twitter.com/trouteyes/status/1554354231578066944

varian Tue 02-Aug-22 18:45:27

If she continues proposing rubbish policies, then having to u-turn in record time, then who konows?

Parsley3 Tue 02-Aug-22 18:28:14

Is it a done deal now, that it will be PM Truss? The membership have no need to vote at all.

growstuff Tue 02-Aug-22 16:55:25

DaisyAnne

Liz Truss has reversed (or did I dream this?) her great new idea of levelling down by paying people differently if they live in different parts of the country.

Apparently you misunderstood what she originally said! hmm

This isn't looking too good ... Press the button! No, I didn't mean press the nuclear botton!

MayBee70 Tue 02-Aug-22 15:27:54

The electorate will forget it though.

DaisyAnne Tue 02-Aug-22 14:12:24

Liz Truss has reversed (or did I dream this?) her great new idea of levelling down by paying people differently if they live in different parts of the country.

SporeRB Tue 02-Aug-22 13:33:34

Liz Truss is contradicting herself, on one hand, she wants to cut taxes immediately to help people during living cost crisis but on the other hand, she wants to cut the wages of public sector workers which defeat the purpose of cutting the taxes in the first place.

My sister works as a senior nurse in Singapore, the government has awarded the nurses 7 to 14 percent increase in their basic salary and a bonus equivalent to 2 months salary in December to stop nurses like her leaving the nursing profession after the pandemic

MayBee70 Tue 02-Aug-22 13:22:10

Let’s just hope that, even if they don’t implement it the north remembers this at the next election.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 13:07:52

Now she is accusing the press of wilfully misreporting her press release. As it was quoted verbatim …..

Trumpety Truss

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 12:39:23

To use a Scottish expression

"She just opens her mou' and lets her belly rummle"

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:03:08

U turn on pay cuts.

She is clueless

icanhandthemback Tue 02-Aug-22 11:57:01

Whitewavemark2

Truss appears to have shelved the levelling up idea.

Civil servants will be paid less in future for doing the same job in the north and other more deprived areas to better reflect the wage market.

So any 'talent' working in the South moving to the North will take a wage cut! That'll work then as people tend to look at the Salary figure rather than the cost of living one. Way to go, Truss!

Mollygo Tue 02-Aug-22 09:33:34

I agree MaizieD. That’s why I said “If there’s any truth”. Far more likely to be doing this.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGXwpO6Ou-4

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 09:26:20

Mollygo

If there was any truth in Yes Prime Minister, (and I’m not saying there was), most ideas the PM presents come from the Civil Servants.

I don't think that civil servants are advocating their own destruction.

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 09:25:27

GrannyGravy13

I have been thinking of all the candidates who put themselves forward in the Conservative Leadership race.

In all probability whoever wins will be ousted when (if) the Conservatives lose the next GE. This could pave the way for more experienced MP’s to stand in the next Leadership Battle.

Looking at long term strategy as opposed to short term desperation, could this have been the grandees of the Party plan all along?

Well, if Truss gets it, which is looking likely, she'll wreak so much destruction that it'll take years to sort it out..

Are there any sensible and experienced MPs left in the parliamentary party? Or any 'grandees? I thought that Johnson heaved them all out.

Mollygo Tue 02-Aug-22 09:19:28

If there was any truth in Yes Prime Minister, (and I’m not saying there was), most ideas the PM presents come from the Civil Servants.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Aug-22 09:09:20

I have been thinking of all the candidates who put themselves forward in the Conservative Leadership race.

In all probability whoever wins will be ousted when (if) the Conservatives lose the next GE. This could pave the way for more experienced MP’s to stand in the next Leadership Battle.

Looking at long term strategy as opposed to short term desperation, could this have been the grandees of the Party plan all along?

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 09:08:39

oops - I just started a thread about this!

paddyann54 Tue 02-Aug-22 09:06:35

She's decided to IGNORE Nicola Sturgeon who is "just an attention seeker" tell that to the people who have VOTED Ms Sturgeon into power over and over again ,we who vote SNP do it for our country ,our children and GC.
If Scotland is in the dire state Liz Truss believes then maybe should realise that its that way because of over 300 years of WM rule ...we've only had a tiny bit of control over a very short time and have done remarkable things within A FIXED BUDGET that is a fraction of our income, thats the income and the recources that WM uses to keep them from bankruptcy .
If she ignores democracy here she may find support for Indy will soar ,even unionists in Scotland believe in democracy and wont see it trashed by Truss.Independence is normal .Independence is right and needed NOW .

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 08:51:19

So Liz Truss is becoming increasingly demented as this contest goes on... and on.... and on ...

She wants to reduce the civil service wages bill by £11billion, when in fact, the total civil service wages bill is only £9billion...

She wants to get rid of 2,400 pieces of EU legislation by 2023, while cutting the civil service who will deal with this, completely to the bone (or abolishing it altogether if her figures are correct).

Oh, and civil servants who are in the SE are exempt from all this. I think this is her idea of levelling up.

Is there some malign being out in the ether there who is orchestrating this to see just how utterly stupid the British public are in their acceptance of liars and headbangers as their leaders?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 07:30:04

Truss appears to have shelved the levelling up idea.

Civil servants will be paid less in future for doing the same job in the north and other more deprived areas to better reflect the wage market.

Allsorts Tue 02-Aug-22 06:44:55

We have to have one of them, out of the two it would be Truss. I didn't like what Rishi did, it was underhand. Most people now think the same. However I'm not expecting a lot. The whole of Europe is in crisis, Germany will probably have rationing before Christmas. We are luckier than most.

Zonne Mon 01-Aug-22 23:24:16

I’m half-heartedly keeping up with some of the hustings, and the campaign pledges in between, and both candidates sound increasingly preposterous. I can’t fathom how anyone is taking their pie-crust (made to be broken) pledges, and random ideas described as policy, seriously.

westendgirl Mon 01-Aug-22 10:04:30

Support for a position in Cabinet; surely that's what is behind the sudden rush .Either that or the knowledge that Truss wont be there long. I get more and more cynical with these what's in it for me politicians.