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Sunak - State of Emergency

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Daisymae Sat 23-Jul-22 08:05:53

Apparently the country faces 5 national emergencies. NHS, economy, immigration etc. I think that I must have missed something, I thought that we had had a Tory government for 12 years so who is responsible for bringing the country to it's knees??

vegansrock Sat 23-Jul-22 16:57:45

What things does the state get involved that it shouldn’t? Welfare? Health? Education? Police? It should be more involved in lots more things such as the climate crisis and the environment imho.

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Jul-22 16:32:40

Dinahmo

Sparklefizz

Daisymae Haven't you noticed that there has been a global pandemic which is still ongoing, plus the war in Ukraine?

Sparklefizz Haven't you noticed that the global pandemic and the war in Ukraine have not affected services in other European countries as much as in the UK? Here in Erupe we're generally doing OK thank you.

Just because it is not being reported in the UK doesn't mean it is not happening.

Farmers are protesting across Europe. It started in the Netherlands and has spread.

MaizieD Sat 23-Jul-22 16:14:31

growstuff

I'm being thick Maizie. What do you mean?

I mean I'm asking the same question ?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 23-Jul-22 13:31:26

CNN reporting that the Tories have made such a mess that they will almost certainly lose the next election.

??

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 13:09:53

PS. Typo in my previous post. "Feat" should be "fear".

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 13:08:47

I'm being thick Maizie. What do you mean?

MaizieD Sat 23-Jul-22 12:46:09

growstuff

What kind of things do you think the state is interfering in?

This ?

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 12:39:18

What kind of things do you think the state is interfering in?

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 12:38:33

PS. I feat that she will be given a cabinet role. I just hope, for the sake of the country, that she never becomes PM.

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 12:37:25

Why are you so impressed with Badenoch?

Baggs Sat 23-Jul-22 12:32:14

RichmondPark1

On that basis Baggs are you suggesting anarchy as the only solution to a failing government?

As I said – implied anyway – the most sensible-sounding politician I've heard of late has been Kemi Badenoch. She talks about the state doing less better and I agree with what that implies, which is that the State is interfering in lots of things it really shouldn't be interfering in.

I'm sorry that Kemi isn't in the fnal two. If I had a vote I'd have vote for her. I think her time will come and let's hope whoever becomes PM just now gives her a good position in Cabinet where she can say more sensible things and maybe actually get something useful done to improve the state of the country.

Baggs Sat 23-Jul-22 12:26:35

RichmondPark1

On that basis Baggs are you suggesting anarchy as the only solution to a failing government?

No.

MaizieD Sat 23-Jul-22 12:25:32

Urmstongran

I just wish someone would lead us. Take control. Have the guts to make some important decisions. We seem to be flailing around in choppy waters. It’s a mess.

You voted for it, Ug.

growstuff Sat 23-Jul-22 12:24:46

Baggs

I just don't think more state control of this, that and the next thing will help, mainly because it clearly hasn't helped so far. You can put me in the Kemi Kamp if you need a label.

The NHS is already, to a great extent, in the hands of private providers. Don't be fooled by the NHS logo! It could very well be that if the profiteers were stripped out and the money spent on patient care, that the NHS could offer a better service.

Kemi Badenoch doesn't give two hoots for people who can't afford to pay for private health care.

Urmstongran Sat 23-Jul-22 12:23:49

I just wish someone would lead us. Take control. Have the guts to make some important decisions. We seem to be flailing around in choppy waters. It’s a mess.

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Jul-22 12:20:03

I agree Ailidh it looks as if it's going to be the lesser two evils and for me, Rishi's the lesser of the two.

lixy Sat 23-Jul-22 12:18:38

mayisay

Don't let us forget the incompetent Civil Service!

Sorry, I really don't think this a fair comment.

Civil servants are as frustrated as everybody else by the disorganisation from the politicians.

JaneJudge Sat 23-Jul-22 12:15:14

those of us who have to deal with the social care system know exactly who is to blame for the emergency angry

Nanna58 Sat 23-Jul-22 12:09:45

I’m very concerned about Truss’ let’s just extend our debts ad infinitum policy, we are in such a state tho I’m not sure anyone short of Superwomen, ( or man!) can get us back out

MaizieD Sat 23-Jul-22 12:04:42

Baggs

*The state doesn't seem to be in control of anything at the moment.*

We agree on that at least ….. so why give them more is my view.

Where have I asked for the state to be given more?

(P.S for 'state' please read 'the party that has been in government for the last 12 years)

RichmondPark1 Sat 23-Jul-22 11:54:09

On that basis Baggs are you suggesting anarchy as the only solution to a failing government?

Baggs Sat 23-Jul-22 11:48:16

The state doesn't seem to be in control of anything at the moment.

We agree on that at least ….. so why give them more is my view.

Dinahmo Sat 23-Jul-22 11:46:24

I'm not sure that many people know what a small state is. There would be no NHS for a start.

Dinahmo Sat 23-Jul-22 11:43:00

sorry - Europe - finger slipped

Dinahmo Sat 23-Jul-22 11:42:29

Sparklefizz

Daisymae Haven't you noticed that there has been a global pandemic which is still ongoing, plus the war in Ukraine?

Sparklefizz Haven't you noticed that the global pandemic and the war in Ukraine have not affected services in other European countries as much as in the UK? Here in Erupe we're generally doing OK thank you.