Starving in Africa

Totally agree with you Maudi,charity begins at home,especially as we all know inflation is through the roof.
The haves will always have but the have nots get very little help
It`s about time governments of these so called poor countries stood up to the plate and looked after their own.

I have learnt a lot from listening to Vandana Shiva an Indian scholar, she is a Wise wise woman an environmental and food sovereignty advocate, who understands the corporate exploitation of farmers and the devastation it brings to the poorest people on earth. Listen to her on YouTube she certainty has brought insight and illumination into my consciousness on a subject I had little understanding of.

Still wondering what virtual signalling is ? Virtue signalling perhaps but I wouldn’t be sure. Different idioms . Do any of us spend time in these very poor countries or are we just relying on the press? Sincerely wondering if any of you have lived in a ‘poor’ country.

You're welcome Yammy. Thank you for reading it.

volver

Not entirely what I'd call a waste of money that "made no difference".

www.coalitionforglobalprosperity.com/resources/2021/2/16/achievements-of-uk-aid

Thanks, Volver for the link I hope a lot of people read it and take note, our money is not being wasted.

Have spent a lot of time on the African Continent, for God’s sake let’s have some pity for their plight and not just’ pull up the drawbridge ‘ ?

As the planet heats up, the first continent to suffer will be Africa.

The first people to be affected will be the nomadic tribes. They depend entirely on their camels and goats in the Tuaregs case and cattle in the Swahili case. The animals are dying in large numbers because there is no longer sufficient fodder. They will have lost their entire economy.

What do you suggest they do?

You ought to see how much money they leave people here with in social care to live on/off and they are changing the benchmark all the time

They don't fucking care about people vulnerable, here, there or anywhere. What is the point calling them a disgrace/ they don't even care poor old silly bowis and &co <an eye roll so massive it could cause a tsunami)

Maudi

Posters on here are not turnings their backs on people don't be so dramatic we have no say whether aid is sent or not. Virtual signalling more like by some posters.

Maudi you are being offensive. If you must know I’m not a virtue signaller, I do take action. I sponsor a little girl in Kenya through Plan, and contribute monthly to Water Aid. Not enough, but it helps. I hope you do similar, they need our help, and I’d be interested to hear what you contribute. . However whilst we can all help on an individual level and many of us do, that’s not the point is it, just throwing your hands in the air and saying we can’t influence the government is wrong on every level.

People need- we send
Simple as

Well the end result which ever way you interpret the OP means less aid to the poorest people on earth.

volver

Its not about the starving in Africa.

That is the heading of the thread and the subject of discussion, to be fair.

MaizieD

Poppyred

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

Perhaps he and his wife have no access to contraception? That's the sort of thing that out foreign aid deals with.

But there's nothing like blaming the poor for their poverty...

At one time people who were largely running an agrarian economy benefited from a large family, help to work the land.

I suspect this may be changing, but I don’t have evidence to hand. However I am sure that it is still true of those following a nomadic existence, like the Tuareg, ,or Swahili and many others. Of course colonialism took away a lot of land that they owned.

Posters on here are not turnings their backs on people don't be so dramatic we have no say whether aid is sent or not. Virtual signalling more like by some posters.

Jaberwok - if we were still part of the EU, we could try to ensure that poorer nations were not being undercut by heavily subsidised EU farmers. As it is, since leaving, we can only look on but at least we can continue to support our less fortunate brothers and sisters in the ways set out by the Coalition for Global Prosperity. Read the link.

Maudi

I think Ukraine are in greater need than Africa at this present time.

The Ukraine war is part of the problem because millions of tons of grain is unable to leave the port of Odesa thanks to the Russians.

One person's need shouldn't trump another's- surely we can help all?

17:40BlueBelle

Unlike your nasty posts calling me and another poster. Pot black comes to mind.

I feel sick. I can’t read this thread. All I will say is that I am horrified at some peoples attitudes. Turning your back on people who are dying of starvation is as low as you can go.

Poppyred

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

Perhaps he and his wife have no access to contraception? That's the sort of thing that out foreign aid deals with.

But there's nothing like blaming the poor for their poverty...

I guess it depends which country you are talking about. In predominant Islamic countries I doubt there is much choice. I think other countries predominantly Christian may be different. But culture overlays everything.

Whitewavemark2

Poppyred

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

Different cultures innit.

Do the women have any choice? Perhaps they would prefer to have the opportunity to limit their families.

With climate change, droughts and famine will occur more and more.
At one time Zimbabwe provided many countries in Africa with grain and food.

Civil wars are not helping either. Fertile countries are not able to roduce food because of conflicts.

Short-term solutions are needed but long-term strategies are the most important.
The whole world needs to wake up to what is happening.

Poppyred

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

Different cultures innit.

Poppyred

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

Well that wasn't what I was expecting...

Did you see the father burying his baby son? Absolutely tragic…and very upsetting to watch.. Then we are told that he has buried 3 other of his own children. Why have (so many) children if you can’t feed them?

Surely he should take some responsibility?

WOW Maud !
Virtual signaling what a nasty thing to say
I have never mentioned your ‘lovely’ family for I have no idea whether you have a family or not I was answering your remarks only
nasty post