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Starving in Africa

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Jul-22 13:00:26

Apparently the U.K. is not going to send any more money anywhere to the poorest people in the world.

The need has never been greater.

Vintagenonna Wed 27-Jul-22 13:06:42

WTF!!!!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Jul-22 13:08:57

That bit of information was from a good knowledgable source.

Rory Stewart.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 27-Jul-22 13:57:29

Why am I not surprised? Horrified and disgusted at the idea, but not surprised.

What do the anti-immigrant right think will happen if we don't help to make poorer countries more worth living in? The young and fit (and mostly men) will come here for a better life, of course. It would be in the best interests of the Priti Patels of the world to help the poorest people to make an acceptable life for themselves at home, if they don't want them here, wouldn't it? confused

The fact that it is morally right to spread the wealth of the world out more equitably will pass these people by completely, of course.

Pammie1 Wed 27-Jul-22 14:05:59

Doesn’t surprise me in the least - this government has shown time and time again that it hates poor people. And if Liz Truss is elected expect the poorest in the UK to be targeted for more austerity - someone has to pay for all those tax cuts she’s apparently going to scatter round like confetti !!

Maudi Wed 27-Jul-22 14:49:14

Good we've been sending money for years and it's made no difference, most of it lands in the pockets of the corrupt and makes little difference to the ordinary people.

PollyDolly Wed 27-Jul-22 14:50:48

Maudi

Good we've been sending money for years and it's made no difference, most of it lands in the pockets of the corrupt and makes little difference to the ordinary people.

Yes, I agree.

volver Wed 27-Jul-22 14:52:37

Not entirely what I'd call a waste of money that "made no difference".

www.coalitionforglobalprosperity.com/resources/2021/2/16/achievements-of-uk-aid

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Jul-22 14:54:55

I weep for people’s inhumanity.

Jaberwok Wed 27-Jul-22 14:57:47

Absolutely agree with you Maudi. This has happened for many decades with the people of these countries getting poorer and poorer while their corrupt governments and their friends get fabulously wealthy. Aid should be in kind not money, so that it has a chance to reach the people it is intended for.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Jul-22 14:58:26

Jaberwok

Absolutely agree with you Maudi. This has happened for many decades with the people of these countries getting poorer and poorer while their corrupt governments and their friends get fabulously wealthy. Aid should be in kind not money, so that it has a chance to reach the people it is intended for.

That sounds like the U.K.

volver Wed 27-Jul-22 14:59:18

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

grandMattie Wed 27-Jul-22 15:00:56

An African UN chap once said, “Africa is not poor, just poorly managed”. So yes, I agree with many posters about the corruption…

silverlining48 Wed 27-Jul-22 15:01:10

That’s harsh ladies. Fraud may be a risk to an extent because it is everywhere, even here but when we have so much in comparison and can help people less lucky, I think we should.
Plus as has been said the poorer a country is the more likely the young will leave to find work elsewhere so they can send money back. They would be looking towards Europe and us and our relatively comfortable lives. You might not be happy with that either.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Jul-22 15:06:36

volver

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

They haven’t read it.

LucyLocket55 Wed 27-Jul-22 15:19:42

I have worked in some of the poorer African states and seen with my own eyes sacks of grain and rice actually been taken off the lorries that were heading to distribution points and loaded onto ‘government vehicles’ that we were told were going to a central depot. The central depot was a large warehouse where the government sold these supplies on and the hungry poor got nothing.

volver Wed 27-Jul-22 15:25:54

Whitewavemark2

volver

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

They haven’t read it.

Course not.

And people think government aid is what we send to help them get out of a natural disaster.

We enabled the education of a million and a half girls including 46,000 with disabilities? Prevented 5 million unwanted pregnancies? Prevented 1.5 million deaths from malaria?

Piffle. Waste of money, clearly. We'll have none of your factual information here, thank you. "I" know better. hmm

Jaberwok Wed 27-Jul-22 15:37:45

After over 60 years of independence with this, and other countries pouring masses of money into African and other countrys, you would think that by now, together with other resources that these countrys are well known for, that they would be thriving, wealthy modern places, but unfortunately some are poorer now than before Colonial days. How can this be? How and why are they so badly run? Why do villages still not have electricity, running water, proper roads, the basic necessities? If money and prosperity doesn't reach every day people, the young will still want to leave for a better life no matter how much or little we give in aid.

volver Wed 27-Jul-22 15:40:52

grandMattie

An African UN chap once said, “Africa is not poor, just poorly managed”. So yes, I agree with many posters about the corruption…

That "African UN Chap" was the president of Liberia. Nothing to do with the UN at all.

Also, she is a chap-ess.

I love an atmosphere of educated debate.

Kandinsky Wed 27-Jul-22 15:41:14

Good we've been sending money for years and it's made no difference, most of it lands in the pockets of the corrupt and makes little difference to the ordinary people

Absolutely.

We’ve got people in our own country having to use food banks, sleeping on the streets etc etc.

volver Wed 27-Jul-22 15:44:35

You're not reading the link, are you?

I know, I know. Don't confuse people with the facts when they've already made their minds up. ?

MerylStreep Wed 27-Jul-22 15:45:26

We aren’t the only bad guys here. The eu have been stuffing Africa for years thanks to the €50 billion CAP payments.

www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/eu-common-agricultural-policy-hurts-africa-covid19-by-muhammed-magassy-2020-08

Jaberwok Wed 27-Jul-22 16:15:22

This undercutting of local farmers has been going on for many years, but I don't think many on here will criticise the EU over anything,and I'm sure we are about to be given a perfectly good reason why this policy to ruin local farmers is fully justified.

maddyone Wed 27-Jul-22 16:21:42

I thought the UK had set a certain percentage of money to be used for aid every year. Am I wrong?

BlueBelle Wed 27-Jul-22 17:06:47

My goodness how do you sleep at night with that inhuman attitude Maudi and jabberwak I can’t believe anyone with a quarter of a heart could think like that