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Why are the Tories still supporting the government?

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Dinahmo Thu 28-Jul-22 11:35:06

Today Centrica announced $1.34 bn profits for the first half of this year. Shell announced £10bn quarterly profits. These are the companies that provide energy to the UK. Whilst thousands of people are having difficulty in paying their energy bills at the moment and which will be going up again later this year the directors and shareholders of these companies will be rubbing their hands together with glee.

But will the govt do anything? I think the answer is a resounding NO.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Jul-22 12:36:13

It is the vast inequality that is so wrong.

Other countries are doing all sorts of things to mitigate the crises.

Not ours.

varian Sat 30-Jul-22 19:02:44

The basic aim of the Tory Party is to foster the interests of their billionaire funders - promote policies which will make the rich richer at the expense of the poor.

The great mystery is the way that they persuade poor people to vote for these policies.

OK we know that The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Daily Express etc have a certain amount of influence but is that it?

Urmstongran Sat 30-Jul-22 19:14:09

Well to counterbalance I suppose theGuardian, the Independent, the Times and the ‘i’ influence their readership demographic so it evens out.

Don’t the massive profits go towards developing important renewables and geo-stuff? It’s not all about fat salaries for CEOs and high returns for shareholders surely? I’m sure I read something about this.

DaisyAnne Sat 30-Jul-22 20:32:41

I have checked how the British see their papers with a YouGov Poll.

The asked the public about eight national newspapers. Five were seen to be predominantly right-wing, two as predominantly left-wing. The Independent, was seen as a broadly centrist.

The most right-wing, the Daily Mail, was seen by 44% of the British population as very far-right. In all 81% placed it as right-wing to some extent.

For the Daily Express, 29% saw it as very far-right. A total of 74% identified it as right-wing to some extent.

Coming down the far-right spectrum, The Sun was scored by 26% as very far-right, with a total of 68% positioning it as right-wing to some extent.

Then we have The Telegraph with 21% at very far-right. A total of 73% say it is right-wing to some extent. Therefore, the Sun is seen further to the right with the Telegraph is overall more right-wing.

With The Times, we are far less far-right at 14% but still up there with 70% seeing it as right-wing to some extent.

We then have the Independent. That scores highest with those polled as "centre" at 37%. Neither total left-wing nor total right-wing figures reached anywhere near 50%.

Then comes The Mirror. 11% see it as very left-wing. A total of 67% put it to some extent on the left.

Finally, The Guardian. 16% see it as very far-left. A total of 71% put it to some extent on the left.

I have no idea how anyone could see the papers as 'evening out' Urmstongran, unless their own political bias is further to the right than any of them.

MaizieD Sat 30-Jul-22 20:43:59

There's a small matter of their circulation figures, too.

The RW papers have a far greater total readership than the left/centre left do. That's not 'even' at all.

DaisyAnne Sat 30-Jul-22 22:43:00

Indeed, Maizie. I have to admit this is the first time I have heard someone suggest it is.

Bodach Sat 30-Jul-22 23:22:05

MaizieD

There's a small matter of their circulation figures, too.

The RW papers have a far greater total readership than the left/centre left do. That's not 'even' at all.

I wonder why that might be. Don't left-leaning people read newspapers? Or do they find the occasionally outrageous but generally entertaining Sun a better read than the reliably right-on Guardian? Maybe it's their guilty secret pleasure. Maybe Jeremy (maybe Keir?) used to start the day with a quick squint at Page 3...

Dinahmo Sun 31-Jul-22 12:24:31

Perhaps the RW papers are seen as aspirational. Perhaps the Guardian is seen too intellectual. After all one of the reasons for Brexit was people being fed up with the urban, intellectual elite.