Johnson's Peerages

A good thought, MayBee70.

Something to reflect on, rather than rant on.

You couldn't make this up!!!

"Well said, MaizieD

I don't understand how the first reaction of anyone who supports democracy, regardless of which party they support, can be to respond to this issue with whataboutery."

One for the family scrapbook.

You couldn't make this up!

"Well said, MaizieD

I don't understand how the first reaction of anyone who supports democracy, regardless of which party they support, can be to respond to this issue with whataboutery."

One for the scrapbook.

Have a second house that is voted in on proportional representation every 7 years.
Each political party can then chose their own people, on a list of those who have been registered present the longest, from either in the House of Lords or House of Commons.

mokryna

Have a second house that is voted in on proportional representation every 7 years.
Each political party can then chose their own people, on a list of those who have been registered present the longest, from either in the House of Lords or House of Commons.

That sounds like a good idea. It might also then pave the way for a sensible PR system for the Commons.

Sadly, I think Johnson has learned many of his lessons from the US Presidential system. Even more sadly, he doesn't seem to realise we have a totally different system.

Isn't the idea of stuffing the Lords to do with changes to the laws on Northern Ireland? I suppose he thinks he needs that so he can go on thinking himself Mr Brexit. After all, without that, what is he?

varian

We urgently need wholesale constitutional reform which should include abolition of the House of Lords.

What will it take for Kier Starmer to stop pandering to populism in the vain hope that we are all so desperate to see change that Labour will win a "landslide" based on a minority of votes just like the Tories did last time.?

I'm not sure that is what Starmer thinks varian. I got the impression he aims and believes it will be possible to get the most votes (possibly 50%) and then have a pact (not a coalition) with some of the smaller parties. They would then get the bills that are popular with all of them through. I hope this is true as that should enable PR.

Or perhaps that is what you meant and don't want?

paddyann54 - re your friend's post on FB. During the last 18 months almost all the donations that I have made have been to UK charities - Trussell Trust, Sally Army, Centrepoint etc etc. I have always held the view that a country that was one of the top 6 wealthiest countries should be ensuring that its people didn't have to rely upon charities.

I think that it is appalling that we need to make up for the lack of money/benefits that the govt should be giving to the poorer/helpless in our society.

MayBee70

To be fair to the House of Lords, they’ve actually been holding the government to account over the past few years. Which is why, I suppose, Johnson is desperate to fill it with his supporters.

Exactly, MayBee.

I know I seem to be the only one in favour when this sort of thing comes up. I still think the HoC should be the English Parliament (housed in the middle of England). The HoL could then be the UK revising chamber it's meant to be and ensure bills for one country will work in harness over all the countries of the UK. An English Parliament would/should give each country a level of autonomy while the UK Senate/Supreme House or whatever would keep them together. Oh, and the UK HoP (no Lords, Ladies or similar) should be in the middle of the UK (York, I think ).

Good plan DaisyAnne.

Nadine Dorries, who apparently is on the list, one assumes for services rendered, but what services, I dread to think, has apparently tweeted an image of Sunak stabbing Johnson in the back.

I don't think that politics has ever reached such a low level before.

Is there anyone at all out there who would like to defend Nadine Dorries' recent behaviour?

Dinahmo

Is there anyone at all out there who would like to defend Nadine Dorries' recent behaviour?

Her mother?