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Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Aug-22 09:52:05

If you have made the mistake of following the Tory leadership election then you will, presuming you suspended your disbelief, now know that we are facing a bright future under Liz Truss, where growth, prosperity, light touch regulation, low tax and strong international trade will deliver us all we have ever aspired to.

In fact, more than that, the climate crisis will, under her rule, be so insignificant it can be ignored; the rule of law will no longer be required; every town, village and hamlet will be a freeport making its own regulations and laws under the benign guidance of a company given the task of doing so; and the land will flow with milk and honey.

None of this is true, of course.

This morning we have news of drought and the risk of hose pipe bans and even outright water shortages.

There is also a warning of power cust to come this winter as electricity supply will not meet demand.

Avanti has just axed two-thirds of its train services on the West Coast mainline.

Six million people are waiting for NHS treatment.

Half the UK's households do not know how they will pay their fuel bills when the average energy price increases to £4,200pa this winter. The likelihood that many will simply be unable to pay is high.

As a consequence, the rest of the economy is under severe threat of recession.

A banking crisis is possible as rents go unpaid, landlords fail to service their debts, joining those mortgage holders who will be in the same boat.

Schools and hospitals face impossible choices due to their increasing energy costs this winter.

Hardly talked about, but something I fear greatly is the risk that many care homes - which have to be warm - will simply be unable to afford to carry on trading this winter as those they p[provide for cannot pay increased bills, creating a massive care crisis.

It is actually quite hard to think of anything that is working well in the UK now, and which is not at risk of failure quite soon.

The Tory leadership election is taking place in some fantasy space created by a political party wholly out of touch with reality. The difficulty is that one of those taking part - and making the absurd promises on offer to the Tory party faithful, will be governing us soon. There is little sign that they will embrace reality then.

We are in deep, deep trouble.

Richard Murphy
10/08/22

Rosalyn69 Wed 10-Aug-22 17:05:23

We are currently leaderless. I feel like I’m on the Titanic.

Grantanow Wed 10-Aug-22 17:22:46

French energy prices kept so low that EDF is suing the French government!

But we are all in deep sh*t and the Tories are looking the other way. Civil Service cuts will hamper any grown up attempt to address the cost of living crisis.

Joseanne Wed 10-Aug-22 17:31:03

Just remind me how much energy costs have gone up in France compared to the UK?
Yes, I am fully aware of that, and was just saying that Johnson could have taken a leaf out of Macron's book and found a compromise before the prospect of a cold cold winter.
It's les feuilles mortes in more than one sense this year.

grumppa Wed 10-Aug-22 18:06:07

Personally, I feel a sense of relief whenever Johnson is out of the country. He has never been of any real use when he was in it.

Fleurpepper Wed 10-Aug-22 18:17:46

Rosalyn69

We are currently leaderless. I feel like I’m on the Titanic.

Well he did say it would be a Titanic success!

MayBee70 Wed 10-Aug-22 18:33:40

Fleurpepper

Rosalyn69

We are currently leaderless. I feel like I’m on the Titanic.

Well he did say it would be a Titanic success!

Probably the only truthful thing he’s ever said!

Iam64 Wed 10-Aug-22 20:35:50

grumppa

Personally, I feel a sense of relief whenever Johnson is out of the country. He has never been of any real use when he was in it.

Good point grumpa, it does feel better when he isn’t here.

Except, we are paying his wages and the country is in crisis.

Is it too much to expect the PM acts and recalls Parliament? Sorry, of course it is too much to expect Johnson to put the country first

Wheniwasyourage Wed 10-Aug-22 21:34:07

Good post, Iam64. smile

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Aug-22 06:54:44

Gordon Brown has also said that the price cap mechanism should be stopped and government put a complete stop now, on any further price rises.

Then look at temporary nationalisation whilst we get to grip with the crises, just as we did with the banks in order to help their customers from losing all their money.

An article written by Brown in the Guardian - which I haven’t yet read.

Iam64 Thu 11-Aug-22 07:33:29

My daughter commented yesterday thst Martin Lewis used to be the go to person if you wanted to save on your holiday. Now, he’s the only person talking sense about the energy crisis. Since lockdown 1, She and her husband work from home. Their employers have closed offices, so there’s no option to return tow office based work.

Smudgie Thu 11-Aug-22 10:00:07

Thank you for this post Whitewavemark, I could have written myself, word for word. This country is on the edge of the abyss, so many things are wrong, some unforseen but made much worse by being so badly handled by this government. I cannot watch either of the two candidates any more, the prospect of them running the country terrifies me. We have a very small family and I have some dear friends who I do not want to leave but take that away and I would sell up and move to France. Yes they have their problems too but not like here, we must be the laughing stock of Europe.

Mollygo Thu 11-Aug-22 11:22:44

In France, according to the newspapers, their health system is having much the same problems as we are, shortage of doctors, shortage of hospital spaces, delayed appointments. I don’t know overall about energy costs, but our gîte owner was ver apologetic about the increase in costs.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Aug-22 11:25:20

Gordon Brown

@GordonBrown
· Jul 30
I’ve seen a confidential document from Lynton Crosby’s lobbying firm which advises Boris Johnson to ride roughshod over every convention and standard of propriety to pack the House of Lords.

Farzanah Thu 11-Aug-22 11:52:47

I’ve just read G Brown’s article in the Guardian and it makes a lot of sense, and stresses the urgency of the situation crises don’t take holidays. In addition to energy price cap suspension he suggests windfall profits taxed before the money exits the country, amongst other things.
No one can be secure when millions feel insecure and no one can be content when there is so much discontent.
Long article worth reading.

Maudi Thu 11-Aug-22 11:54:14

It's a fallacy that things are better in France. We toured France a month or so ago and I can tell you diesel was roughly the same price as here, food in the supermarkets was more expensive as was eating out. Clothes shops more expensive especially jeans and outdoor gear. One place we stayed Foy Le Grande was really run down with empty shops and boarded up cafes,previously a few years ago it was booming so similar to some places in the UK.

Casdon Thu 11-Aug-22 11:58:10

Not true on fuel prices Maudi it is cheaper in France.
autotraveler.ru/en/spravka/fuel-price-in-europe.html

Mollygo Thu 11-Aug-22 12:01:06

Maudi, They have reduced their fuel prices quicker in France. 1.70€ for diesel yesterday. We plan to fill up here before we come home. But you’re right about the rest of it and one place we went to yesterday, recommended for its lovely pedestrianised town centre was full of boarded-up shops, apart mostly, from vape shops, and bar presse tabac. Thankfully, the historic buildings were still standing.

Zonne Thu 11-Aug-22 12:04:18

And France have capped energy price rises to 4%.

halfpint1 Thu 11-Aug-22 12:04:30

Maudie, not true in my region.
Some country villages in France have looked lijl

halfpint1 Thu 11-Aug-22 12:04:48

Looked like that for years

halfpint1 Thu 11-Aug-22 12:05:39

Sorry that was for mollygo

Fleurpepper Thu 11-Aug-22 12:06:19

Yes, much cheaper in France.

Those areas of France which have been deserted for decades as people left for the towns, became very touristy, as people from UK bought cheap because the French did not want to live there. Brexit has made it very hard for many, who have left. I avoid those regions, where shops and restaurants are British owned, and hardly anyone speaks French. And prices in proportion. Just depends where you go in France.

maddyone Thu 11-Aug-22 12:07:56

Richard Murphy is a very left wing person who has advised Corbyn according to Wikipedia, so it could be argued that he has an agenda.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Aug-22 12:13:43

maddyone

Richard Murphy is a very left wing person who has advised Corbyn according to Wikipedia, so it could be argued that he has an agenda.

I would accept your assertion, if you had a clear alternative argument showing how incorrect his article is.

However, you don’t and neither does the very right wing tory party.

So in the absence of anything sensible from the right, I will listen to those who have at least addressed and recognised the severe crises facing this country.

Blinko Thu 11-Aug-22 12:16:00

varian

Boris Johnson might be called a "caretaker" PM. But he doesn't care. He's just a taker.

Where’s that ‘Like’ button when you need it?