A whole new world landscape? It's not pretty.

varian

How many times have you pointed out Johnson's lies to a Tory voter and been told "they're all the same"?

They are not all the same. We must support the politicians who have integrity and tell the truth. Otherwise the liars will win.

Yes, this cannot be said too often.
Saying that all politicians lie is ridiculous. Think about it.
Are we so completely powerless that that demanding honesty and integrity in our politicians is beyond us? The answer is no we are not. We may not have been aware of Thatcher's secret agenda, if she had one, but we are well aware of what we are being told today. For example, the 40 hospitals mantra is a figment of Johnson's imagination but he shouted it across the House on a regular basis. If the next PM does the same then the leader of the opposition needs challenge it and we, the voters, need to let our MPs, of all parties, know that enough is enough.

And I am sure that locally many people do not have that experience. My previous constitiency MP was a hard working MP who did a lot for the local community both in and out of office.

Parsley3

varian

How many times have you pointed out Johnson's lies to a Tory voter and been told "they're all the same"?

They are not all the same. We must support the politicians who have integrity and tell the truth. Otherwise the liars will win.

Yes, this cannot be said too often.
Saying that all politicians lie is ridiculous. Think about it.
Are we so completely powerless that that demanding honesty and integrity in our politicians is beyond us? The answer is no we are not. We may not have been aware of Thatcher's secret agenda, if she had one, but we are well aware of what we are being told today. For example, the 40 hospitals mantra is a figment of Johnson's imagination but he shouted it across the House on a regular basis. If the next PM does the same then the leader of the opposition needs challenge it and we, the voters, need to let our MPs, of all parties, know that enough is enough.

I constantly write to me MP regarding the lies that are told in parliament. And she constantly denies it.

CatsCatsCats

All politicians lie, it's part of their job description.

If you're looking for one who is totally honest and full of integrity, you've got a very long wait ahead.....

Cats, lying is Not part of a politician's job description. What job contract would specify that?
What Is in his/her job description is that he/she carries out the job with Integrity and Honesty.
It is the Contract that he/she has with the electorate. Us!

An interesting debate. Let me respond to a few comments.....

DiamondLily
"Johnson is just a compulsive liar. In his personal life, and with his career.
I've never understood why people support him.?"

I think the reason why people support him (and his cohorts) is that they have politicians who lie, cheat and are corrupt, which often allows them to justify their own actions (if not always to others, to themselves). He is also a showman (vaudeville act) with no substance and some people love that.

growstuff
"I'm not sure what you mean about energy prices. Generally, they are going up across the world."

Yes, they are, but other countries are doing much more, more quickly, for the plebs. France, for example ('Friend or foe' - Truss says "the jury is out"), is limiting rises to 4%. But they are in the dastardly EU of course, where we couldn't make our own laws or policies.

Americanpie
"We are suffering from having mediocre politicians who haven't the guts to do something radical about our energy sources. Where it will all end is anyone's guess but it is going to get a lot worse without a bold leader."

One of the problems is that many decent competent politicians have been sidelined or rejected by their parties, or have become disentranched with the whole business and left frontline politics.

Parsley3
"I constantly write to me MP regarding the lies that are told in parliament. And she constantly denies it."

My MP is Anne-Marie Morris. Therefore I share your experience and your pain.

My MP is Kemi Badenoch, who rarely responds to any communications and doesn't represent her constituents. She's far too busy with her own career and being seen as an anti-woke champion.