Johnson's mental health?

Hopefully, the Tories will self destruct over the coming months.

If Truss is the best they can muster, it's a poor show.

But, Starmer needs to be all over them - when Major's government was limping to it's end, Blair was attack/attack/attack, on a daily basis.

He never gave Major any peace.?

Starmer needs to do the same - point out their mistakes, but also say what Labour would do differently, and how it would be paid for.

We all know what a disaster Johnson's tenure has been - the alternatives need spelling out to voters.

Fleurpepper

Thanks for all your contributions and thought. Very interesting.

Contributions are only coming from the left, though. The right don't bother with this forum any more...

It would be interesting to know what they think...

According to insiders, he expects Truss to quickly fail, and is plotting his comeback.

I think everyone is expecting Truss to fail. Though I think most people are hoping that will bring on. GE and we can get rid of the whole lot ?

Agree totally DiamondLily, except I would have added bastard

I don’t think there is anything wrong with Johnson that would fit a diagnosis. I wouldn’t give him that excuse. He’s a prat. End of. Probably the majority of politicians are the same but some are bigger prats than others. He happens to be a large one.

Thanks for all your contributions and thought. Very interesting.

And, just like Trump, he has a band of supporters who admire his determination to ignore normal expectations and behave exactly as the moment encourages them to do.

DiamondLily

I thought Johnson was a self serving, lying, incompetent London mayor. He then went on to become a self serving, lying, incompetent PM.

But, he only does it, and behaves like this, because he's been allowed to.

For some reason, too many voters bypass the normal standards they should expect from a leader, and vote for him anyway.

It must have come as a huge shock to him when his own MPs ousted him.

According to insiders, he expects Truss to quickly fail, and is plotting his comeback.?

Just like Trump

I thought Johnson was a self serving, lying, incompetent London mayor. He then went on to become a self serving, lying, incompetent PM.

But, he only does it, and behaves like this, because he's been allowed to.

For some reason, too many voters bypass the normal standards they should expect from a leader, and vote for him anyway.

It must have come as a huge shock to him when his own MPs ousted him.

According to insiders, he expects Truss to quickly fail, and is plotting his comeback.?

Johnson's behaviour doesn't appear to me to be any different now than it has been throughout his entire life. He has always been unreliable, irresponsible, 'out there', amoral, a stranger to the truth and a liability to those around him in every area of his life.

This isn't a mental health condition is it? It seems more likely to me that it's just his method of operating. He messes things up then he moves on. He doesn't seem to have ever genuinely cared about or regretted anything and he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

He has consistently destroyed everything anyone else might hold dear but up he bobs, he ruffles his hair and on he strides.
Water off a duck's back.

He's learned he can get away with anything and expects to continue doing so.

off!

but we are way of course here!

'dumping' implies 'deliberate.

As I said volver, I’m sorry if I posted a poor example, I didn't say it was deliberate, and used that because it was the most recent, not in an attempt to deceive. You only have to look online to see there are lots of examples of sewage in rivers and the sea in Scotland, just as there are everywhere else. I can post them if it would help, but I know you know it’s the case, so there’s not much point. What I took exception to was the denial that it was the case (not from you), when it is clearly happening.

We are right off topic now but I want to add something.

Two beaches in Scotland may have had sewage on them last week because of a burst pipe. The Tay is a pretty big river round about there, and flows pretty quickly, so it was probably a case of being careful about the status of the beaches, just in case. Goodness knows how many beaches in England had sewage on them because the government is allowing a festival of sewage dumping.

Conflating an accident which was quickly fixed, with a policy that the Tory Government is supporting, is going to be misleading.

Fleurpepper

But your exemple was NOT sewage 'dumping'.

It was sewage on beaches Fleurpeper and that’s what I said it was?

But your exemple was NOT sewage 'dumping'.

I don’t think I implied that there was deliberate sewage dumping in Scotland volver, just that sewage dumping was happening, whereas paddyann54 said it wasn’t - but apologies if it came over that way. As I said there are huge issues to be tackled about water and sewerage in all the nations, and a lot of investment to put right decades of underfunding, and I think it would be wrong to underplay the reality that Scotland has much to do within that remit too. I’ve been reading up about the issues and to be honest it’s scary. I really hope this drought shakes the Westminster government, working in partnership with the Scottish and Welsh governments, into urgent action.

No, sorry "Casdon*. The accidental failure of a sewage pipe is in no way comparable to a policy that allows English water companies to legally dump sewage into watercourses.

There maybe funding problems but they have not decided that polluting is ok and they should just go ahead.

volver

That sewage near Dundee?

It was a burst pipe near to the Tay which poured sewage into the river for a few hours. A breakdown, not a policy. I spent some time sitting in the traffic jam that the roadworks caused. A couple of days later, we've been declared sewage free again.

Not the same thing at all as the pumping of sewage into rivers and the sea that is going on south of the border.

There’s a problem everywhere volver.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58040852
There is plenty more online about Scottish discharges. I’m not having a go at Scotland, lack of funding to the water industry is a decades long problem everywhere, and the Scottish government is reliant on increased funding if they are to improve, of course. There’s a bigger issue though, around the whole water industry infrastructure in all the nations. I’m in favour of nationalisation, and a joined up resilience plan, and investment to out right decades of neglect to the infrastructure, and punishment for non compliance.

That sewage near Dundee?

It was a burst pipe near to the Tay which poured sewage into the river for a few hours. A breakdown, not a policy. I spent some time sitting in the traffic jam that the roadworks caused. A couple of days later, we've been declared sewage free again.

Not the same thing at all as the pumping of sewage into rivers and the sea that is going on south of the border.

paddyann you can't keep blaming Westminster for everything that is wrong with your country!

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Johnson is mentally ill. I think he does have a personality disorder. He can’t change what he is, but his party and the electorate need to understand him for what he is and vote accordingly
I agree.
Having a personality disorder may not necessarily be a bad thing but it is when the PM refuses to believe that he has done anything wrong and blames others.

paddyann54

I dont think he has been under pressure I've read many comments from people in government who say he just dumps the problem on the next person he sees and goes on his merry way hoping it will be dealt with and he'll have something to report back on.Or lie about .The man is a disgrace ,as for his arse licking behaviour of the Ukrainian President ..just so he can say he was Zelensky's saviour it beggers belief.
He wanted his Churchill moment and this is as close as he can get so he's grabbing it with both hands.
Meantime the Countries where he is STILL Prime Minister are left with no one willing or able to make decisions about the almighty mess he's left behind !
Sadly, power devolved means the vast majority of power is retained by Westminster,and they aint working!!

So we have to watch OUR countries go down the pan with England...well at least we dont have shit on our beaches and the Edinburgh strike situation is Unionist party led by the coalition they came up with to oust the SNP . Most Scots know this and support the strikers our resident liar Anas Sarwar said there would be no coalitions with tories .Seems the labour councillors didn't get the memo there are at least 3 that I know of .Well done (not) Edinburgh for NOT objecting to the minority coalition overiding the people you DID vote for .

Yes, paddyann54 you do have sewage on your beaches. I wish you didn’t, I wish we all didn’t. www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/two-scottish-beaches-limits-after-27814241
Something has to happen on water urgently now, for all our sakes. The industry needs a complete rethink, at a national and at a UK level, because so much of the water used in England comes from Scotland and from Wales.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Johnson is mentally ill. I think he does have a personality disorder. He can’t change what he is, but his party and the electorate need to understand him for what he is and vote accordingly.

There s nothing wrong with Johnson’s mental health.

He is simply a lazy incompetent liar.

Nothing a good kick up the ass wouldn’t have cured over the years.

Read his school reports