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Poll: If there were a General Election tomorrow, which politic party would you vote for?" Labour lead of 10

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DaisyAnne Sat 03-Sept-22 08:48:37

Just that. I can only imagine that, if Truss carries out her promises to give tax cuts to the rich and ignore those struggling, the Labour party's lead would increase.

If she has been saying this to gain power, and we have another liar in office, I don't know how usually Tory voters will react. They seem to accept the most outrageous of lies so they may stick with her. There still seems to be a tranche of Trumpian style supporters sticking to Johnson; they may transfer allegiance (and all common sense) to Truss.

You can see the chart here

Katie59 Tue 06-Sept-22 07:35:33

Truss is a fact of life, I’m sure she will be better the Johnson - she could hardly do worse. Would she have won a GE, maybe, it’s too close to call most likely a coalition would have resulted.
In 2 yrs time it’s up to the Labour Party to win or loose, it’s their choice, unless they get their act together they will loose again.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 05-Sept-22 21:45:37

What are your priorities then Cats, if none of the parties aligns with them?

Dinahmo Mon 05-Sept-22 21:38:51

Lathyrus

No sorry, I don’t.

That kind of points scoring, where winning the argument is the most important thing doesn’t appeal. It doesn’t really seem to change anything and nobody is listening to each other.

Even if the ruling party was bringing in something really good the opposition would oppose it regardless. And even if the opposition was making a really good point about some proposed legislation the ruling party would try to put them down. Just to be top dog rather than genuinely exploring the issues.

Fed up with adversarial politics☹️

Starmer did not go for point scoring. He merely tried to hold Johnson to account. It was Johnson who always tried to niggle Starmer by calling him stupid names and not answering the questions put to him.

Perhaps you might have had a different point of view had you watched PMQs occasionally.

Harris27 Mon 05-Sept-22 21:14:35

None

spabbygirl Mon 05-Sept-22 17:39:07

I would usually vote labour but am in a tory safe seat so will probably vote Lib Dem, I just want the tories gone!! Labour have been hesitant about their plans so the papers write more about how bad the tories are, Keir wants the NHS & public services refunded so their silence is tactical, it stops papers doing what they did to Corbyn & trashing them in people's eyes way before the election

CatsCatsCats Mon 05-Sept-22 17:28:59

Oh, I voted during the EU referendum, but then I wasn't voting for any particular British political party.

I stopped voting for political parties when it became apparent that NONE of them aligned with my priorities. But then, I do have priorities very different from the norm smile.

Livey Mon 05-Sept-22 17:16:11

I hang my head in shame that at the last election I voted for Boris
The first time in 70 odd years I changed my vote.
Just look where that has got us, and now Liz Truss, Gawd help us all
So, who would I vote for, if I manage another two years with Conservative government -
Back to Labour

Skye17 Mon 05-Sept-22 17:14:52

To the OP: Labour.

HousePlantQueen Mon 05-Sept-22 17:06:08

RichmondPark1

I agree Lathyrus they clearly need to spread the message far and wide that they have policies which will benefit the population at large.

I too agree, but the biggest problem that the Labour party, and the Libdems too have, is that the Non Dom owners of the popular press campaign against them relentlessly, and until people can take the time to evaluate, think, listen to and read all views and opinions, we will be stuck with what we have. I live in a 'blue rosette on a donkey' constituency, but I shall vote for the candidate most likely to kick the arse of beat the current smug, lazy incumbent. In my case, it will be LibDems.

Mollygo Mon 05-Sept-22 16:10:22

If you don’t vote, don’t moan about the outcome. We’ll never know which way all the cba voters would have voted in Brexit, but it might have made a difference to the 1 million difference between yes and no. Maybe they didn’t vote because they were afraid of being on the losing side-whichever side that might be.

So those blaming the non-voters are happy that the referendum vote was less indicative of choice than it might have been.
That’s your opinion. Stating it as a fact is inaccurate.

DaisyAnne Mon 05-Sept-22 10:36:38

Mollygo

Suffragettes or not, if you don’t vote, don't moan about the outcome. So many people didn’t vote in the referendum, and look where that got us.

The issue wasn't the none voting, but that we chose a way of voting that didn't show a strong inclination either way.

To ensure a strong mandate for important changes it is normal to assume that those who don't vote are happy with the status quo. Those blaming the non-voters seem to be acknowledging this when they suggest that "Remain" lost the vote because of non-voters. I don't think I have ever heard it suggested that those voters would have given "Leave" a larger share of the vote. So those blaming the non-voters are happy that the referendum vote was less indicative of choice than it might have been. That it served the purpose of the minority.

All we managed to show is that we split almost 50/50. Look what trouble that has brought us and, I dare say, will continue to bring us.

I think we need to remember, in the future, that the Conservatives do not chose voting systems for the sake of democracy but for the sake of the Conservative Party. Look what happened when we wanted a vote on PR. They gave us a vote on the Alternative Vote system which they knew would no one really wanted.

DiamondLily Mon 05-Sept-22 09:43:04

Labour normally. But I live in a "blue" seat, where Labour have no chance. It's never been Labour.

So, tactically, I would vote LD, as they always come second.

Anything but Conservative. ?

Mollygo Sun 04-Sept-22 22:18:54

Suffragettes or not, if you don’t vote, don't moan about the outcome. So many people didn’t vote in the referendum, and look where that got us.

Casdon Sun 04-Sept-22 19:55:51

I think your mum was right Iam64. I think everybody should vote, and if not enamoured of any of the candidates spoiling your ballot at least is a measure of your dissatisfaction - better than voting for a pointless candidate.

DaisyAnne Sun 04-Sept-22 19:55:10

Oh, dear. Sadly, I dislike the overegging of the suffragettes' part in getting votes. There were also the suffragists, the men who were disenfranchised and, probably playing the biggest part, was the war.

When it comes to suffragettes, brave and badly treated though many were, I'm still not in favour of extremism.

Iam64 Sun 04-Sept-22 19:50:03

My mum once wrote ‘none of the above ‘ on her ballot. Dad said he was put out because he’d driven them 50 miles to a previous address to vote. In fact, we all knew he was very impressed by her independent approach

DaisyAnne Sun 04-Sept-22 19:47:17

varian

I've no time for the "don't votes" or the folk who decide the vote "Raving Loony" or some other nonsense as a protest.

We live in a sham democracy, where votes are counted by FPTP, not a true democracy where PR means every votes counts equally, but even so, not voting or voting in a contemptuous manner for Raving Loonies or the like does nothing to move our country in the right direction.

I'm not at all sure I agree Varian. Not voting makes as much of a statement as voting for any particular party does. Many feel disenfranchised and would be declaring that by not voting.

I can't see myself not voting but you really never know.

DaisyAnne Sun 04-Sept-22 19:42:59

Dizza25

It looks like labour are going to win by a landslide on the basis of the responses!

I think the poll I quoted in the OP would be more accurate Dizza. It shows Labour 10 points ahead of the Conservatives. However, I would expect at least a short bump upwards for the Tories as the new PM takes over. How long it will last depends on what they do after that.

Iam64 Sun 04-Sept-22 19:40:17

varian

I've no time for the "don't votes" or the folk who decide the vote "Raving Loony" or some other nonsense as a protest.

We live in a sham democracy, where votes are counted by FPTP, not a true democracy where PR means every votes counts equally, but even so, not voting or voting in a contemptuous manner for Raving Loonies or the like does nothing to move our country in the right direction.

Yes !
And yes to Blondidcott’s comment about suffragettes and using our votes.
Same goes for working class, non land owning men. Their votes were hard fought for

Allsorts Sun 04-Sept-22 19:32:09

Not Labour

Mollygo Sun 04-Sept-22 19:15:02

Blondiescot ???

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 04-Sept-22 18:57:34

Probably Labour but LibDem if that was deemed a suitable solution to getting rid of the current Tory MP. I live in a very Tory area where even my children’s Year One teacher was a Tory Councillor.

varian Sun 04-Sept-22 18:50:45

I've no time for the "don't votes" or the folk who decide the vote "Raving Loony" or some other nonsense as a protest.

We live in a sham democracy, where votes are counted by FPTP, not a true democracy where PR means every votes counts equally, but even so, not voting or voting in a contemptuous manner for Raving Loonies or the like does nothing to move our country in the right direction.

Blondiescot Sun 04-Sept-22 18:31:37

If you don't vote, don't moan about the way the country is run! The suffragettes must be turning in the graves, having fought and died to give us the right to vote, only for some to day they can't even be bothered to do so!

Dizza25 Sun 04-Sept-22 18:13:43

It looks like labour are going to win by a landslide on the basis of the responses!