Boris Back by Christmas! ?

Count me in on missing Boris.
That said if it’s Truss (likely it seems) I hope it’s not a close call but a stomping majority (a) to give her confidence and (b) to show the MP’s that they are (again) often at odds with the electorate.

I remember well the mess in the HoC and all this ‘indicative votes’ that were put forward when May was trying to get Brexit done - which all got swept aside by the tsunami of voters who wanted Boris.

Truss is going to Get Brexit Done now. Properly. She’s quite determined about it. She seems quite ruthless about it. Boris seemed to sit on the fence (since Ukraine), Sunak blocked a lot of her plans it’s come out - over trade, courts and the NIP. That alone will make her popular in the Red Wall.

For that alone I’m cheering her (and a more robust team and approach) on ... “Go Truss!”.

halfpint1 It was Boris's speed at getting the vaccination out and available that was his strong point. Don't you remember the EU being slated because they were very slow off the mark in introducing the vaccinations. I remember at the time being relieved at having left the EU as they were so slow.

We were prompt with our vaccination programme here because the vaccine had been ordered by the UK ahead of us fully leaving the EU! Any EU country could have done likewise. Johnson chose to make political capital from it.

My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.

IF he could be persuaded to be less idiotic and less frivolous, and IF he showed he were more serious and that he had really learnt from his experiences, then yes a return might be possible, but I'm not holding my breath.

Another of those “Big Calls” - putting a border in the Irish Sea, when he said he would never do that. Those who believe the “big calls” soundbite, have definitely been gaslighted.

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The national emergency will be addressed by the next PM, BOB. Quite what you expect from a lame duck PM is beyond me. Recalling parliament would have achieved nothing.

If he intended to do nothing except have parties, have holidays and make vanity trips he should have left the post straight away and left the country to the deputy PM.

How you can tolerate such blatant money grabbing and idleness is beyond my understanding and that of many other members of the public.

Elrel's comment is pretty fair...

The national emergency will be addressed by the next PM, BOB. Quite what you expect from a lame duck PM is beyond me. Recalling parliament would have achieved nothing.

Elrel, good response

Barmeyoldbat - If people do ‘idolise’ Johnson they must have similar standards to him in integrity, attention to detail, and reliability.

Big calls right? Like leaving lockdown late? Not limiting international travel till the last minute? Not attending Cobra meetings? Allowing Covid patients back into nursing homes? Spending billions on track n trace ? Handing out contracts to chums? Opening schools then closing them the next day? Supporting Cummings, Patterson, Hancock and Pincher? Vaccinations? European countries caught up and have overtaken us this is never mentioned.

No one said you couldn’t have your views, I just replied to your post, what did I expect him to do? He could have recalled parliament, after all we had a national emergency with the cost of living. He could have at least appeared to be concerned. But no, party on Boris.

You have your views and are entitled to them BOB. I have mine and am similarly entitled. Quite what you expect a 'lame duck' PM to do, especially when parliament is in recess, I don't know. But we mustn't have holidays, must we?

Spain? Norway?

Yes GSM he could have done something, he resigned and wanted to stay on until September, what has he done in that time, had holidays, a leaving party, a wedding party, a royal tour of the UK to say goodbye and he is even having the cheek to go Scotland to hand in his resignation to the Queen in person, instead of doing it as other PMs have done, By letter. But then it’s another jolly for him. He left the whole country in limbo and a laughing stock. He is an absolute disgrace.

I know this because I was in contact with a friend of the same age and she was so surprised as she had been led to believe otherwise

The choice hasn't been binary though has it. It wasn't Johnson or Truss. There were several other candidates. MPs will have helped select Truss should she win. Many have publicly backed her.

How can they then regret handing in their letters?

It was around 3weeks and then the speed was excellent, it was more the boasting than the actual reality

The vaccine was out quickly, not least because research in our to- universities was excellent . The nhs supported by an army of volunteers delivered the vaccine
Sunak and his furlough scheme, the extra £20 per week for people on benefits was excellent.
Like most, I’m keen to support Ukraine but I dislike Johnson’s attempt to paint himself as a churchillian war leader.

12 years of Tory misrule leaves our public services in disarray, Liz Truss doesn’t impress me as a quick thinker or the strong, confident leader the country needs now.
Johnson is an entertainer, he makes people laugh. He’s a charlatan abd a liar. Good riddance

Is BJ certain to be returned as an MP if /when there is a general election? Think he should be careful what he wishes for.

The grass is not always greener BlueBelle & chocolatelovinggran France has its own problems as do other EU countries.

He may well be hail fellow, well met in the Ukraine so I suppose that is a plus that his acolytes can hold dear.

Another one here who is not so sure that BJ 'got it right' over Ukraine.It came as a welcome distraction and chance to talk big. The £2 billion we have apparently spent on arms means £2 billion into the pockets of tory voting arms manufacturers when all our public services are on their knees. Or so it seems to me.

He can't do anything at present. What do you expect? Wait and see what Truss does - not that I have an ounce of confidence in her.

Yes Boris did get the vaccine out quickly but as for the rest and as for Ukraine that is just a booster to his over inflated ego, he got a medal out of it but I would much rather he sorted out the NHS for the winter and tackled raising prices. Giving the vaccinations was due to the hard work by the NHS who he has chosen to ignore a decent pay rise.

This is true, Cats. But I'm afraid you won't get the labourites on GN to recognise that, or anything else that was achieved by his government (such as the swift furlough payments and loans). I imagine that many Conservative MPs may live to regret putting their letters in, indeed probably do already, because Truss isn't likely to be a vote winner in a GE. Charisma goes a long way - witness Blair, Clegg, Johnson. She's devoid of it.

halfpint1 It was Boris's speed at getting the vaccination out and available that was his strong point. Don't you remember the EU being slated because they were very slow off the mark in introducing the vaccinations. I remember at the time being relieved at having left the EU as they were so slow.

And another thing Boris was good at was his dealings with Ukraine. Again, much better and firmer than the EU.