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❓Truss’s First PMQ’s❓

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FannyCornforth Wed 07-Sept-22 11:45:22

Shall we have a thread about it?

It will be interesting (I hope)

MayBee70 Wed 07-Sept-22 23:36:28

MawtheMerrier

^As for Coffey she might be good at her job but you usually try to convey what you want and expect from your own appearance and actions. She looks like the 20-stone nurse who told me I needed to lose weight when she needed two chairs to hold her ample bottom^

Regardless of politics, do we really have to sink to this level of criticism woman to woman?
Cheap.
And if a man had criticised a woman on her appearance?

She’s responsible for the health of the nation. And she’s not only grossly overweight but also smokes. It would be forgivable if she had a health condition but that isn’t the case.

growstuff Wed 07-Sept-22 23:19:12

It seems Coffey now has something else to answer.

Apparently, she left Oxford after failing her exams. I don't think she has ever claimed to be an Oxford graduate, but some sections of the media have.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/07/therese-coffey-had-to-leave-oxford-university-but-made-it-to-deputy-pm

I think she's been a bit silly not to set the record straight.

MawtheMerrier Wed 07-Sept-22 22:52:07

As for Coffey she might be good at her job but you usually try to convey what you want and expect from your own appearance and actions. She looks like the 20-stone nurse who told me I needed to lose weight when she needed two chairs to hold her ample bottom

Regardless of politics, do we really have to sink to this level of criticism woman to woman?
Cheap.
And if a man had criticised a woman on her appearance?

MawtheMerrier Wed 07-Sept-22 22:47:43

vegansrock

When was the last Tory PM not from the South of England ?

Grantham (Margaret Thatcher) is hardly the south of England.
Alec Douglas Home was Scottish

vegansrock Wed 07-Sept-22 22:28:12

When was the last Tory PM not from the South of England ?

Dinahmo Wed 07-Sept-22 22:22:28

Starmer and Corbyn are living in or close to their constituencies.

MaizieD Wed 07-Sept-22 21:10:25

Joseanne

MayBee70

MaizieD

I was a bit startled when she told the person from a modest background, who, through his own efforts, became a top barrister and Director of Public Prosecutions, that his party wasn't a party of 'aspiration.'

Nothing like trotting out a tired old cliche...

What did she mean about all Labour leaders coming from London? Did she mean they had London constituencies or that they were born in London? Neither of which, to my knowledge, is true.

I think she meant Norff London as we call it. They all live round here ... Starmer, Corbyn, Milliband. ??

That's so they don't have to claim £1,000s for second homes... wink

Yammy Wed 07-Sept-22 20:01:48

It was all that I expected at PM question time but the cartoon in the Times was brilliant.
It depicted her meeting the Queen. Liz Truss was holding her fingers out to be kissed by the Queen!!!!
As for Coffey she might be good at her job but you usually try to convey what you want and expect from your own appearance and actions. She looks like the 20-stone nurse who told me I needed to lose weight when she needed two chairs to hold her ample bottom.

Deedaa Wed 07-Sept-22 19:50:39

OK let's lower the tone and say that ankle grazer trousers and high heels are not a good look on someone who seems to have trouble walking in heels.

Callistemon21 Wed 07-Sept-22 19:44:09

Dinahmo

GrannyGravy13

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

Wasn’t Ken Clarke Health minister (1988-1990) I do not recall anyone objecting to his waistline, drinking or cigar smoking.

We're a bit more aware now I think.

And he's still here, in the H of L, age 82.

You gotta love Ken Clarke!

Dinahmo Wed 07-Sept-22 19:42:03

GrannyGravy13

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

Wasn’t Ken Clarke Health minister (1988-1990) I do not recall anyone objecting to his waistline, drinking or cigar smoking.

We're a bit more aware now I think.

Mamie Wed 07-Sept-22 19:30:11

As opposed to Greenwich which is, I believe, called the spiritual home of Trussism.
Hardly downmarket is it? ?

Joseanne Wed 07-Sept-22 19:23:43

MayBee70

MaizieD

I was a bit startled when she told the person from a modest background, who, through his own efforts, became a top barrister and Director of Public Prosecutions, that his party wasn't a party of 'aspiration.'

Nothing like trotting out a tired old cliche...

What did she mean about all Labour leaders coming from London? Did she mean they had London constituencies or that they were born in London? Neither of which, to my knowledge, is true.

I think she meant Norff London as we call it. They all live round here ... Starmer, Corbyn, Milliband. ??

Casdon Wed 07-Sept-22 19:12:39

Blinko

MayBee70

rosie1959

Fleurpepper

rosie1959

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

I will more interested in how well she can do the job
I am overweight smoke and used to drink was still pretty efficient I'm my career

Were you in charge of the Health system/NHS?

Obviously not but her physical characteristics and her personal habits make not a jot of difference to her ability to get the job done

This is just my personal opinion but, for the NHS to survive more needs to be done to make people more aware of the need to be responsible for their own health via eating healthily, not smoking, maintaining a healthy weight etc. I don’t see how that can possibly be achieved if the person in charge of the nations health disregards all of those things.

Recently I heard an interview with a consultant at one of the London Hospitals. He was asked if an unlimited amount of money was suddenly granted to the nhs, what would he spend it on. Straight away, he replied 'Sort out the Care system, then 60% of the issues around ambulance waiting times could be solved at a stroke'.

That would make a huge difference, although it would cost many millions to sort out the care system. However, the care system is the front end of the NHS’ problems, public health is the back end. If the health of the nation doesn’t improve, there will be many more people needing packages of care at home and admission to nursing homes in the future so the problem will get even bigger. Hospital consultants are the ‘quick fix’ problem solvers of the NHS, whereas Public Health are the longer, but bigger issue solvers.

MayBee70 Wed 07-Sept-22 19:06:48

MaizieD

I was a bit startled when she told the person from a modest background, who, through his own efforts, became a top barrister and Director of Public Prosecutions, that his party wasn't a party of 'aspiration.'

Nothing like trotting out a tired old cliche...

What did she mean about all Labour leaders coming from London? Did she mean they had London constituencies or that they were born in London? Neither of which, to my knowledge, is true.

Blinko Wed 07-Sept-22 18:43:58

MayBee70

rosie1959

Fleurpepper

rosie1959

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

I will more interested in how well she can do the job
I am overweight smoke and used to drink was still pretty efficient I'm my career

Were you in charge of the Health system/NHS?

Obviously not but her physical characteristics and her personal habits make not a jot of difference to her ability to get the job done

This is just my personal opinion but, for the NHS to survive more needs to be done to make people more aware of the need to be responsible for their own health via eating healthily, not smoking, maintaining a healthy weight etc. I don’t see how that can possibly be achieved if the person in charge of the nations health disregards all of those things.

Recently I heard an interview with a consultant at one of the London Hospitals. He was asked if an unlimited amount of money was suddenly granted to the nhs, what would he spend it on. Straight away, he replied 'Sort out the Care system, then 60% of the issues around ambulance waiting times could be solved at a stroke'.

karmalady Wed 07-Sept-22 18:43:44

short and sharp, she does not bumble and waste her words. Inspires confidence and a very good start

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 07-Sept-22 18:42:55

Don't worry, Farzanah. There are many who said you got it right!

Casdon Wed 07-Sept-22 18:40:41

MayBee70

rosie1959

Fleurpepper

rosie1959

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

I will more interested in how well she can do the job
I am overweight smoke and used to drink was still pretty efficient I'm my career

Were you in charge of the Health system/NHS?

Obviously not but her physical characteristics and her personal habits make not a jot of difference to her ability to get the job done

This is just my personal opinion but, for the NHS to survive more needs to be done to make people more aware of the need to be responsible for their own health via eating healthily, not smoking, maintaining a healthy weight etc. I don’t see how that can possibly be achieved if the person in charge of the nations health disregards all of those things.

I agree MayBee70, you don’t see overweight, smoker Public Health spokespeople, that’s because in very senior roles in Health they are expected to set an example so the health messages they provide are seen to be regarded, and generally they do practice what they preach. I’ve been racking my brains, I can’t think of an overweight smoker since Ken Clarke, and he was there over 30 years ago.

Zonne Wed 07-Sept-22 18:39:50

I am genuinely not bothered about Coffey’a looks. I am bothered that she has, according to my husband, said she will be good at her role, as she ‘pays attention to detail, and already knows the bulk of NHS work is done by GPS, dentists, and chiropractors’ (my bold).

I would laugh, if it wasn’t so important to get a competent person in charge of both health and social care.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 07-Sept-22 18:38:57

Maybe I agree, she really needs to set an example not do as I do but as I say springs to mind

Farzanah Wed 07-Sept-22 18:32:25

Sorry didn’t mean to call you a dog. Slip of the finger?

Farzanah Wed 07-Sept-22 18:30:12

Yes I agree GSD think she’d have made a better PM.

MayBee70 Wed 07-Sept-22 18:27:46

rosie1959

Fleurpepper

rosie1959

vegansrock

I’m wondering if Therese Coffey , who apparently likes a drink and a smoke and is overweight is the best person for health minister….

I will more interested in how well she can do the job
I am overweight smoke and used to drink was still pretty efficient I'm my career

Were you in charge of the Health system/NHS?

Obviously not but her physical characteristics and her personal habits make not a jot of difference to her ability to get the job done

This is just my personal opinion but, for the NHS to survive more needs to be done to make people more aware of the need to be responsible for their own health via eating healthily, not smoking, maintaining a healthy weight etc. I don’t see how that can possibly be achieved if the person in charge of the nations health disregards all of those things.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 07-Sept-22 18:07:53

Just heard Penny Mordaunt speaking. So much more authority and confidence in her voice.