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FannyCornforth Thu 08-Sept-22 12:38:58

It sounds worrying, doesn’t it?

Pittcity Mon 12-Sept-22 08:26:27

BBC Breakfast are doing their best to put people off coming to London to view the coffin. Queues of over 30 hours with basic facilities are predicted.
I'll watch on TV.

MayBee70 Mon 12-Sept-22 08:45:14

Aveline

*MayBe70*. Have you seen the photos of the crowds? The whole area is jam packed. Very long queues are to be expected. I seriously think you might be best watching it all from home. Don't make yourself unwell.

Thanks Aveline. I think I just wanted to feel close to her. I had thought she would be taken South by train and we could have watched the train go past. The pictures of the tractors and the horses lining the road had me in tears again! I believe it should have been Edinburghs riding out ceremony at the weekend which had to be cancelled ( note to self, must go to that next year: I didn’t know Edinburgh had one) so lots of riders would have been ready to do something. I’ve also realised why I’m so sad. It’s seeing all the pictures of her as a young girl with her whole life ahead of her. Throughout my life I’ve always thought of The Queen as being old because she’s been 26 years older than me so I’ve never thought of her as a young person. To compound it all in the sketch with Paddington that beaming smile at the end was the smile of a young person. We’ll never see her like again.

Elegran Mon 12-Sept-22 09:04:44

MayBee70 I have lived in Edinburgh for over sixty years and have never heard of riding the bounds in Edinburgh. Border horsemen anually ride the marches of their town, accompanied by many on foot ( traditionally lots of youngsters were shown the markers of the boundaries and to fix them in their minds were beaten - lightly I hope) but this is the first I have heard of it being done in Edinburgh.

Caleo Mon 12-Sept-22 09:16:54

There can't be a traditional common riding for Edinburgh because modern Edinburgh encompasses lots of former villages such as Colinton, Muttonhole, and Corstorphine, and also former privately owned estates such as Barnton, Muirfield, or the parts of the New Town.

I wonder if The Meadows was common land at one time.

Elegran Mon 12-Sept-22 09:31:42

Someone told me that the Riding would be round the old city walls, (what remains of them) but I don't know if that is true.

MayBee70 Mon 12-Sept-22 18:56:34

I’ll try to find where I read it. I love the riding out ceremonies. Managed to see the Coldstream one o few years ago and Berwick had one recently. But I always seem to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when it comes to seeing them. Met a lovely American lady today who was driving up to Edinburgh today and her hotel was close to the cathedral so she was wondering if they would be able to get to their hotel. And I’ve seen more corgis today than I’ve seen in decades. It’s made their owners quite celebrities.

Kim19 Mon 12-Sept-22 19:16:54

Elegran, sorry it's a bit belated but thanks for your response to my request for info on the vigil in St Giles. I'm going to give it my best shot at what I think will be the optimum time for fewer crowds (huh!). I can but try.....

karmalady Mon 12-Sept-22 20:25:13

Scotland have done her proud, very moving and beautiful

Aveline Mon 12-Sept-22 20:45:29

Kim19 my friend is getting the last bus into town tonight to join the queue. She's expecting to be there all night!

silverlining48 Tue 13-Sept-22 06:41:13

Have just heard on the radio that the queue now is only about an hour in Edinburgh.
Now might be the time for anyone who still would like to go.

silverlining48 Tue 13-Sept-22 06:43:56

Hope your hip has rested Aveline and you feel better today.

Juliet27 Tue 13-Sept-22 06:47:17

karmalady

Scotland have done her proud, very moving and beautiful

Agreed

Aveline Tue 13-Sept-22 08:19:49

Roger McGough's poem

NanKate Tue 13-Sept-22 09:28:01

Thank you Aveline for posting this poignant poem.

icanhandthemback Tue 13-Sept-22 10:07:23

Juliet27

karmalady

Scotland have done her proud, very moving and beautiful

Agreed

Agreed.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 13-Sept-22 10:14:17

I’ll try to cut and paste it if I can, but the Simon Armitage’s (poet laureate) poem “Floral Tribute” is in acrostic form - 2 verses of nine lines, the first letters of each line spell Elizabeth.

He uses the lily as a metaphor for Elizabeth.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 13-Sept-22 10:17:13

Here we are? all the literary information gleaned from the Guardian

Floral Tribute

Evening will come, however determined the late afternoon,

Limes and oaks in their last green flush, pearled in September mist.

I have conjured a lily to light these hours, a token of thanks,

Zones and auras of soft glare framing the brilliant globes.

A promise made and kept for life – that was your gift –

Because of which, here is a gift in return, glovewort to some,

Each shining bonnet guarded by stern lance-like leaves.

The country loaded its whole self into your slender hands,

Hands that can rest, now, relieved of a century’s weight.


Evening has come. Rain on the black lochs and dark Munros.

Lily of the Valley, a namesake almost, a favourite flower

Interlaced with your famous bouquets, the restrained

Zeal and forceful grace of its lanterns, each inflorescence

A silent bell disguising a singular voice. A blurred new day

Breaks uncrowned on remote peaks and public parks, and

Everything turns on these luminous petals and deep roots,

This lily that thrives between spire and tree, whose brightness

Holds and glows beyond the life and border of its bloom.

Simon Armitage

henetha Tue 13-Sept-22 10:29:38

Thank you for posting that, Whitewave. It's beautiful.

DaisyAnne Tue 13-Sept-22 12:22:38

It's an acrostic poem. He was talking about the Lily of the Valley being the Queen's favourite flower and how he had written it. If you read down the first letters spell Elizabeth smile

Iam64 Tue 13-Sept-22 19:41:37

I’d missed that DaisyAnne, thank you

Elegran Tue 13-Sept-22 20:11:05

Here is another, older, poem.

Fear no more the heat o’ the sun,
Nor the furious winter’s rages;
Thou thy worldly task hast done,
Home art gone, and ta’en thy wages:
Golden lads and girls all must,
As chimney-sweepers, come to dust.

Fear no more the frown o’ the great;
Thou art past the tyrant’s stroke;
Care no more to clothe and eat;
To thee the reed is as the oak:
The sceptre, learning, physic, must
All follow this, and come to dust.

Fear no more the lightning flash,
Nor the all-dreaded thunder stone;
Fear not slander, censure rash;
Thou hast finished joy and moan:
All lovers young, all lovers must
Consign to thee, and come to dust.

Wm Shakespeare, from Cymbeline

DaisyAnne Tue 13-Sept-22 20:27:04

Just a bit older Elegran smile Thank you.

Bellanonna Wed 14-Sept-22 09:57:35

I love that. Thank you

merlotgran Wed 14-Sept-22 15:00:04

A very dignified procession to the lying in state for the Queen this afternoon.

nadateturbe Wed 14-Sept-22 15:18:06

It was Very moving.