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Truss going on tour with Charles

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Zonne Sat 10-Sept-22 21:30:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

MayBee70 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:34:17

GrannyGravy13

Maybee70 have you the same empathy for the wives of the men that Diana the Princess of Wales had affairs with?

Well that’s me told. I shall ask HQ to remove my offensive comment. Even though I was actually voicing concern for Camilla.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:34:03

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree GG13 and Zonne. She was no saint.

There seems to be a ridiculous veiled suggestion that Truss will try to seduce Charles. Unbelievable.

???

What goes through some people's minds?

Joseanne Sun 11-Sept-22 19:31:28

Luckygirl3

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree GG13 and Zonne. She was no saint.

There seems to be a ridiculous veiled suggestion that Truss will try to seduce Charles. Unbelievable.

I should think he will be too knackered!

grin

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 19:30:13

Agreed!!!

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:23:48

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree GG13 and Zonne. She was no saint.

There seems to be a ridiculous veiled suggestion that Truss will try to seduce Charles. Unbelievable.

I should think he will be too knackered!

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 19:17:03

I agree GG13 and Zonne. She was no saint.

There seems to be a ridiculous veiled suggestion that Truss will try to seduce Charles. Unbelievable.

Zonne Sun 11-Sept-22 19:14:41

Prentice

Zonne yes, you are biased indeed, but at least you do recognise that fact.
support for either King Charles or Liz Truss is not already leaching away, and it seems you are wrong, or the media snippet was wrong to assume this was a tour.

It’s a tour, as others have pointed out. I didn’t say support was leaching away, I said there was a risk of it. It was not a media snippet, it was a Downing Street statement.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:13:57

Zoejory and GrannyGravy

Well said!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:11:21

Maybee70 have you the same empathy for the wives of the men that Diana the Princess of Wales had affairs with?

Zoejory Sun 11-Sept-22 19:10:02

Diana caused that exact trauma to the wives of her lovers, Maybee70

Prentice Sun 11-Sept-22 19:09:24

Zonne yes, you are biased indeed, but at least you do recognise that fact.
support for either King Charles or Liz Truss is not already leaching away, and it seems you are wrong, or the media snippet was wrong to assume this was a tour.

MayBee70 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:04:47

DaisyAnne

MayBee70

I worry about Camilla. I think she struggled to get over covid for a while and I don’t think she has the stoicism that the Royal family seem to have. I can’t believe I’m saying this as someone who hated her at one time. Just goes to show, if you want to get into my good books just make a point of letting people know how much you like dogs and horses!

How could you hate her? You don't know her; you don't know the truths of her life.

I hate a lot of people that I don’t actually know eg Johnson, Trump Farage . And, having gone through a heartbreaking divorce where there was a ‘third person’ in our marriage that I tried to protect my children from I felt great empathy for Diana and had very little sympathy for anyone happy to have an affair with a married man and father. Have you experienced that?

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 18:52:12

Not enough to stop her having a long extra-marital affair!

None of us know what her religious beliefs are.

Riverwalk Sun 11-Sept-22 17:58:35

Is Truss known to be religious?

DaisyAnne Sun 11-Sept-22 17:30:37

MaizieD

Zonne

Truss has backtracked. Her spokesperson has said she is only going to the four church services, not joining any other part of the tour. The spokesperson claims this was always her intent, but it is quite clearly not what the original Downing Street statement said.

I don’t believe any of this was arranged in advance, and Downing Street have confirmed that it is not a constitutional expectation, but something the PM feels is the right thing to do. For whom was not mentioned.

Thank goodness.

I've no problem with her attending the services, as I said way back upthread.

GG13. King Charles is touring the UK. He is royal. Not only that, he is Top royal. I think that makes it a Royal Tour.

It is good to hear there has been a change of thinking. I have just read about the "sweeping reorganisation" Truss is making in the Civil Service. I do hope this is not the politicisation her predecessor seemed to want.

If she were to go on the Royal Tour (Progress?) then I would worry about bringing politics into the position of Head of State too. The fact that we don't vote for the HoS is why it can remain non-political and one reason why I would rather it stayed that way.

Chestnut Sun 11-Sept-22 17:27:27

To be honest, I was looking at William yesterday and thinking how worried he looked. I've noticed this before, the deep frowning and anxious expression, which will age him before his time. He clearly knows his life will be one of total duty. Even little George often looks rather anxious. I am a Royalist and love the RF but I am just beginning to wonder if the 21st century will be too demanding for them. It's all so different from the Queen's reign, every move is filmed in close detail, everything they do is scrutinised on social media. Frankly, it's too much.

DaisyAnne Sun 11-Sept-22 17:16:58

MayBee70

I worry about Camilla. I think she struggled to get over covid for a while and I don’t think she has the stoicism that the Royal family seem to have. I can’t believe I’m saying this as someone who hated her at one time. Just goes to show, if you want to get into my good books just make a point of letting people know how much you like dogs and horses!

How could you hate her? You don't know her; you don't know the truths of her life.

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 17:16:36

Seems bonkers to me - I am the same age as Charles and I was contemplating not going on a group bus trip to town on Wednesday as I am getting over a cold and feel tired. Made me feel quite ill just looking at his schedule which involves popping on and off planes whilst also trying to arrange a funeral. All seems wholly unnecessary - he can visit each separate nation when he has got the funeral behind him.

I am sure he is not tearing his hair out writing speeches as I am sure he had those up his sleeve years ago; but the sheer travelling burden is enormous.

Chestnut Sun 11-Sept-22 16:49:24

Luckygirl3

I have just looked at the schedule for Charles over the next week and it seems unbelievably punishing for a man of mature years who is grieving. I feel sure that all these visits could have waited till after the funeral. It seems crazy - likely to make him ill before he even gets started.

Your comment has made me feel sad and worried. I would not be able to take on such a daunting role and schedule at that age. The Queen had an established routine and was well looked after in old age. I doubt she had to do anything she wasn't up to, with plenty of people doing the hard graft (and rightly so) as she got older. Charles does not have that established routine and is faced with countless new tasks and ceremonies. That is extremely stressful, no matter how much help he gets.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 16:37:47

I can’t imagine either of them relishes the thought of taking all this on in their 70s, but they will be well looked after and have none of the mundane worries we do about housework, shopping and cooking, laundry, gardening, making travel arrangements, getting the car serviced, fitting in a hair appointment….

winterwhite Sun 11-Sept-22 16:32:58

*Calendargirl at 12.13: “There were three of us on this tour- it was a bit crowded”.
???

They obviously heard you.

Daddima Sun 11-Sept-22 15:49:57

MayBee70

Well, everything the King does will be scrutinised so he needs to tread carefully. It only crossed my mind after her death that everything the Queen did publicly for 70 years had meaning and everything she said was non controversial (albeit sometimes with double meanings: I remember when the Queen made a speech after Diana died I said to my daughter ‘listen carefully to this: she is angry and estranged from Diana…she won’t lie but she will choose her words very carefully’ which she did). As a complete blunder woman myself I find her ability to always say and do the right thing at the right time amazing. It even dawned on me that she wanted us to see her hand in that last photo: she could have asked for the blueness to be airbrushed out but she didn’t. I think she wanted to prepare us for her departure.

I don’t know about preparing us, but I do agree about her ( or whoever writes her stuff) saying the right thing. ‘ Recollections may vary’ was outstanding!

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 15:02:31

She certainly won't have time to waste on Gransnet, Maybee!

I think it's a huge amount to face at age 75.

MayBee70 Sun 11-Sept-22 15:00:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 14:54:15

I have just looked at the schedule for Charles over the next week and it seems unbelievably punishing for a man of mature years who is grieving. I feel sure that all these visits could have waited till after the funeral. It seems crazy - likely to make him ill before he even gets started.