Truss going on tour with Charles

Zonne

Truss has backtracked. Her spokesperson has said she is only going to the four church services, not joining any other part of the tour. The spokesperson claims this was always her intent, but it is quite clearly not what the original Downing Street statement said.

I don’t believe any of this was arranged in advance, and Downing Street have confirmed that it is not a constitutional expectation, but something the PM feels is the right thing to do. For whom was not mentioned.

That’s what I thought her intention was anyway I could not imagine her going walkabout with him greeting people that would be inappropriate and unnecessary.
Whether she is popular or not is irrelevant she is attending the church services in her position of PM

Advice

I think as well that Charles should be very wary of any association with such an unpopular PM. When she falls he must be seen as entirely distant.

Pleased to hear that Truss has finally listened to advise. I suspect there is concern that her popularity would fall even further, as constitutionally she has no place alongside the monarch.

Zonne

Truss has backtracked. Her spokesperson has said she is only going to the four church services, not joining any other part of the tour. The spokesperson claims this was always her intent, but it is quite clearly not what the original Downing Street statement said.

I don’t believe any of this was arranged in advance, and Downing Street have confirmed that it is not a constitutional expectation, but something the PM feels is the right thing to do. For whom was not mentioned.

Thank goodness.

I've no problem with her attending the services, as I said way back upthread.

GG13. King Charles is touring the UK. He is royal. Not only that, he is Top royal. I think that makes it a Royal Tour.

Zonne

Truss has backtracked. Her spokesperson has said she is only going to the four church services, not joining any other part of the tour. The spokesperson claims this was always her intent, but it is quite clearly not what the original Downing Street statement said.

I don’t believe any of this was arranged in advance, and Downing Street have confirmed that it is not a constitutional expectation, but something the PM feels is the right thing to do. For whom was not mentioned.

Chris Mason BBC was reporting just this 14 hours ago.

Truss has backtracked. Her spokesperson has said she is only going to the four church services, not joining any other part of the tour. The spokesperson claims this was always her intent, but it is quite clearly not what the original Downing Street statement said.

I don’t believe any of this was arranged in advance, and Downing Street have confirmed that it is not a constitutional expectation, but something the PM feels is the right thing to do. For whom was not mentioned.

Look on the bright side - maybe his ideas about climate change and the environment will rub off on her...

winterwhite

Agree unlikely that LT suggested this and that it was prob fixed ages ago. In the circs I think it should have been re-thought. It gives extra and uncalled for 'legitimacy' to a new PM and that is inappropriate. Since she comes to her role well known for everything being 'all about me' it was absurd to have asked her opinion, it that is what happened.
Worst thing will be if she uses this as a reason to defer any meaningful visit of her own.

BTW someone upthread said that this was not a royal tour. What is it then?

I associate a tour with celebrations and gaiety.

As I understand (and I could be wrong) King Charles 111 is visiting the leaders of all four nations of the U.K. in their homelands as part of his duty /protocol as our new King.

Is Camilla accompanying Charles and Liz Truss on this ‘tour’ or whatever it is being referred as?

“There were three of us on this tour- it was a bit crowded”.

Agree unlikely that LT suggested this and that it was prob fixed ages ago. In the circs I think it should have been re-thought. It gives extra and uncalled for 'legitimacy' to a new PM and that is inappropriate. Since she comes to her role well known for everything being 'all about me' it was absurd to have asked her opinion, it that is what happened.
Worst thing will be if she uses this as a reason to defer any meaningful visit of her own.

BTW someone upthread said that this was not a royal tour. What is it then?

GrannyGravy13

Dinahmo

Truss started as she meant to go on. Apparently she could have flown by helicopter from the airport to Balmoral for her visit to the Queen. She chose to go by road. The former would have been quicker and cheaper but she chose the latter, which entailed a police escort and was more expensive. Why did she chose the latter?

Where do you get your information that a helicopter flight is cheaper than a car journey?

Ms. Truss would have had security in either situation.

My DH read it to me from something he was reading at the time but I do not know what. It wasn't from social media.

However, having now delved further in response to your question, it would appear that heavy fog meant that neither Truss nor Johnson could make the last part of the journey by helicopter.

I still don't understand why they had to have separate flights and car journeys. We are told that it was for security reasons but since Johnson hadn't been acting as a PM should since he was kicked out and she had only been PM for a couple of days, in this instance I don't think security was of paramount importance.

I don’t think that there has ever been a more unpopular PM at the beginning of their leadership. Perhaps Truss is hoping that by attaching herself to Charles, some of his popularity will rub off onto her.

Well, everything the King does will be scrutinised so he needs to tread carefully. It only crossed my mind after her death that everything the Queen did publicly for 70 years had meaning and everything she said was non controversial (albeit sometimes with double meanings: I remember when the Queen made a speech after Diana died I said to my daughter ‘listen carefully to this: she is angry and estranged from Diana…she won’t lie but she will choose her words very carefully’ which she did). As a complete blunder woman myself I find her ability to always say and do the right thing at the right time amazing. It even dawned on me that she wanted us to see her hand in that last photo: she could have asked for the blueness to be airbrushed out but she didn’t. I think she wanted to prepare us for her departure.

I don't think it's appropriate. As king he should be above politics and touring with the PM will be, construed as endorsement of the conservatives. Just wrong. I thought he would have known better.

I know it’s unusual but Charles is experienced enough to know if it would be deemed inappropriate. He has met Liz Truss so he obviously has got the impression that he would get along ok with her on a joint Uk tour.

I think it’s a good idea. It makes sense. They are both new to their respective top jobs so why not join forces and go together?

Dinahmo

Truss started as she meant to go on. Apparently she could have flown by helicopter from the airport to Balmoral for her visit to the Queen. She chose to go by road. The former would have been quicker and cheaper but she chose the latter, which entailed a police escort and was more expensive. Why did she chose the latter?

Where do you get your information that a helicopter flight is cheaper than a car journey?

Ms. Truss would have had security in either situation.

Truss started as she meant to go on. Apparently she could have flown by helicopter from the airport to Balmoral for her visit to the Queen. She chose to go by road. The former would have been quicker and cheaper but she chose the latter, which entailed a police escort and was more expensive. Why did she chose the latter?

MaizieD this is not a royal tour

GrannyGravy13

Aveline

Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.

Protocol, absolutely

And what protocol would that be?

I've never heard of a protocol that says the PM should accompany the monarch on royal tours.

If Charles has agreed to this then he drops way down in my estimation.

mind mine

DaisyAnne

MaizieD

FarNorth

I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.

Learn how to act like an aggressive child?

metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link

What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?

I think that a tiny incident is being grown out of all proportion here.

That table arrangement was very poorly thought out. Every single little detail should have been thought through and rehearsed, including the fact that it had to accommodate people signing from both sides of the table, to ensure the ceremony went without a hitch. Charles indicated that the inkwells and the tray of pens were in the way. What would you have liked him to do? Pick them up and pop them on the nearest windowsill? That would have really messed up the ceremony, wouldn't it?

Well said Maizie. There are far too many people who get their jollies pulling other people down for no good reason or even because they make up their own truths.

Sometimes I despair about the innate nastiness on here.

Yes

Aveline

Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.

Can you read Aveline? There is software that will read for you, if not. This is part of my reply to your earlier comment.

Whether it is Truss or Keir Starmer they would have a job to do and should be getting on with it.

I get the feeling that people are coming on here who think, "we've talked about the Queen for long enough, we've talked about the new King for long enough and now we have to talk about me and what I think".

Having said that, that's what I think, and it's about how unhappy lies and nasty make believe makes me feel. So it's time for me to get off these threads and back to real life - where, in mind at least, people are generally kind and thoughtful.

Truss has to show that she can match Penny Mordaunt's way of speaking and her demeanour. Watching Mordaunt yesterday morning I couldn't stop thinking about the contrast between the two women.

Aveline

Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.

Protocol, absolutely