Truss going on tour with Charles

Truss does herself no favours blatantly seeking out photo opportunities. She will get plenty of these in London during the next week.

Whitewavemark2

Shazmo24

The Queen when she ascended to the throne did the same thing by visiting Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales as well as Parliament.
This is not unusual and its the perfect time for Liz Truss to go to having just become the Prime Minister.

The difference being, that Churchill recognised the need to keep parliament and monarchy separate.

Truss can very well troop around the U.K. if that is what floats her boat, but not with the monarch. (Personally, I would rather she did the job she is paid to do - it would make a nice change after the past few months)

Whitewavemark2
I do not think it will float her boat at all, as she has many important things regarding government to do, however, I have read that it was decided some time ago that whoever was PM of any political party, would do this.It is hardly a tour as such, but meant to reassure the people that the PM and the new King are both at the helm in fluctuating times.
it could have been Mr Corbyn, or Mr Johnson or whoever was the PM.

DaisyAnne

Aveline

I don't know who's idea this was. I suspect it wasn't Truss's. If it was Charles's idea I suppose no one is wanting to say no to him right now. Equally if it was a political suggestion he could have vetoed it as no one would want to disagree at present. He's looking old and distressed. It's a massive overwhelming time for him. I'm sure he's being listened to.

The article, which is all this thread is based on, says it was Truss's decision.

If it was in a newspaper it must be true then?

Ok, Truss is not going on the tour. But - and having read this far - I would just like to say, that if I was the King....and was at all dubious about her ...I would definitely want to know just how she ticks!

To take these individually:

1. You are assuming that Thatcher would have wanted to be President without any discussion of what the role of President might be.

2. You say she might well have been elected President. She might well not.

3. You are assuming that there would be no limit on the number of terms a President could serve, when we haven't even decided if we want a President.

4. We do have a written constitution, I believe, its just not all written down in the same place. Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.

5. You are willing to accept a lifetime king/queen but not to accept an elected HoS with limited periods of office which we could decide on.

Nothing's clear about this. But sticking with the hereditary monarchy because of some made up concerns abut democracy is a bit odd, IMO.

Not confused at all, volver! If we had been a republic Thatcher's popularity with a large section of the population might well have meant her election as President. And if she kept on standing it might have been for life. As we don't have a written constitution in the UK it's unclear as to whether a President would have a limited term. Kings and Queens have a lifetime job unless abdicating.

Who has advocated a President for Life?

Making things up, are we?

(BTW, Thatcher was Prime Minister. Getting a bit confused there.)

It's not appropriate. Charles as a constitutional monarch should stay out of any political stunt. And not everyone believes in monarchy though I think it's better than having a President for Life as could have happened with Thatcher if we had been a republic. Nonetheless, the right to protest is a human right and the arrests of the few people who have protested at the ceremonies are quite wrong: of course, they were at risk of being attacked by the crowd in which case they should have been given police protection.

varian

Truss tried to muscle in on today's proceedings in Edinburgh,

Doesn't she just love a photo opportunity?

She was an also-ran and for once upstaged by Nicola Surgeon who as First Minister of Scotland had every right to take a prominent role in the service at St Giles Cathedral.

The attention seeking Truss will get her opportunity in London.

I think I am right in saying there are more ERG members of her cabinet than even Johnson had. Where have all the Conservatives gone? They have had their party stolen from under them. The ERG doesn't care about the country, as we have seen previously. They want to get their type of policy through. She is now hiding in full sight, turning this into a longer "honeymoon" period where it is hard for people to judge her.

The ERG does not want a government; they want a dictatorship. Her bill on energy, was not properly introduced. There was no preview paper for the other parties before the announcement. There was no properly run questioning of it, just an announcement that this is what Parliament is going to do. Most importantly, there was no vote. If that is not on the way to dictatorship, I don't know what is. The arrogance of the Bill, the attack on the Civil Service and a cabinet full of nodding dogs do not bode well for the country.

rosie1959

MayBee70

Truss has lifted the ban on fracking whilst everyone’s attention is elsewhere. What else is being sneaked through parliament I wonder?

I thought parliament was in recess during the period of mourning

Truss is continuing her predecessor's example of sidelining Parliament at every opportunity.

I suspect that it was done by Statutory Instrument, which can make amendments to legislation without the approval of Parliament.

Shazmo24

The Queen when she ascended to the throne did the same thing by visiting Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales as well as Parliament.
This is not unusual and its the perfect time for Liz Truss to go to having just become the Prime Minister.

Liz Truss is not a queen.

Since when did our PMs tour the UK on becoming PM?

MayBee70

Truss has lifted the ban on fracking whilst everyone’s attention is elsewhere. What else is being sneaked through parliament I wonder?

I thought parliament was in recess during the period of mourning

volver

Ms Truss's face giving away what she really feels about Sturgeon, in St Giles yesterday.

To be fair, Ms Truss just looks as serious as everyone else in the photo who was listening to Ms Sturgeon.
She could hardly be seen to be beaming at such a solemn occasion.

Truss has lifted the ban on fracking whilst everyone’s attention is elsewhere. What else is being sneaked through parliament I wonder?

Shazmo24

The Queen when she ascended to the throne did the same thing by visiting Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales as well as Parliament.
This is not unusual and its the perfect time for Liz Truss to go to having just become the Prime Minister.

The difference being, that Churchill recognised the need to keep parliament and monarchy separate.

Truss can very well troop around the U.K. if that is what floats her boat, but not with the monarch. (Personally, I would rather she did the job she is paid to do - it would make a nice change after the past few months)

avitorl

So sorry .I meant my response to be about Truss and not to posters on here.

?? made me laugh! Fleeting image of you tugging your forelock and sweating a bit!
I agree WTF?! Surely should just be the King And I (Camilla?)

I don't pay for my news in a rag like telegraph. As for disliking someone you don't even know? Strangely adolescent

The Queen when she ascended to the throne did the same thing by visiting Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales as well as Parliament.
This is not unusual and its the perfect time for Liz Truss to go to having just become the Prime Minister.

Ms Truss's face giving away what she really feels about Sturgeon, in St Giles yesterday.

Volver recognised it was not the time to talk about Republicanism so why can’t the rest of the anti Tory members here just stop.

Thank you for the recognition of what I said Annie1 but that time is past now. So many people making nasty comments about republicans and basically anybody who isn't prostrate with grief about the Queen's passing. I would not deny how strongly people feel about this but not all of us think its such a big deal, really.

If anyone wants to denigrate republicanism, I'll be waiting here, or any other thread you want to get going on.

Allsorts

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

Those that like a monarchy, how about King Andrew, King Harry, Queen Meghan, Old Queen Wallis?

Please can we go just one day without such silliness? Please?

Grany

Yes I agree not appropriate

I am biased too I want a republic

While we are being told by many people 'now is not the time' surely there is no better time to discuss monarchy and republicanism than with the passing of the longest reigning monarch in British history and in a period of great uncertainty for many people in Britain? Yet this is the one discussion that you will not see or hear in the British media, or in public discussion by politicians, or public debate. Instead, we are treated with the absolute assumption that all of us want the monarchy to continue and that there are absolutely no issues with the hereditary principle, which denies the democratic principle.

#NotMyKing

www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/23454-the-myths-of-monarchy-and-the-need-for-a-republic

Well said and my feeling too .

I have read up to and including page 4 and the sheer nastiness of some, not all, left wing members shocks me so soon after the Queen has died.

Why do some of you feel you must constantly show your complete antipathy for the new PM. She is dealing with the cost of living crisis and then the Queen died so suddenly and unexpectedly which most of us find extremely sad and a shock. I wonder if Sir Keir Starmer was PM would that coterie write such nasty and unnecessary posts, Some of you would have to bring your anti style posts whichever candidate had achieved PM status, Can we grieve in peace. Volver recognised it was not the time to talk about Republicanism so why can’t the rest of the anti Tory members here just stop.

sandelf

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

It’s actually not happening - misreported apparently. But if it were, it most certainly would be political - the new PM ‘introducing herself’ is a totally different thing to the new King, who is already familiar anyway, touring the country in his new role.

Allsorts

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

Don’t think it was a matter of fact checking - it was actually reported that way.